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First post, by rick12373

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Does anybody know how to replace the CMOS battery on a Compaq Presario CDS 520? See the attached picture. It won't budge and I don't want to use too much force and damage it.

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486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 1 of 12, by snufkin

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Looks like it might be something like this:
https://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-electronic-c … 2330/dp/1298256

In which case, I think it's spot welded to the carrier, so you'll probably have to unsolder the current one. Or maybe just cut the current battery out, then solder a normal battery holder in its place.

Reply 2 of 12, by rick12373

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snufkin wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:03:

Looks like it might be something like this:
https://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-electronic-c … 2330/dp/1298256

In which case, I think it's spot welded to the carrier, so you'll probably have to unsolder the current one. Or maybe just cut the current battery out, then solder a normal battery holder in its place.

So I need to heat up the top part that is holding the battery down,remove the battery, put a new battery in and then add a small amount of solder between the top holder and new battery? Something like that anyway?

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 3 of 12, by snufkin

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rick12373 wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:13:
snufkin wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:03:

Looks like it might be something like this:
https://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-electronic-c … 2330/dp/1298256

In which case, I think it's spot welded to the carrier, so you'll probably have to unsolder the current one. Or maybe just cut the current battery out, then solder a normal battery holder in its place.

So I need to heat up the top part that is holding the battery down,remove the battery, put a new battery in and then add a small amount of solder between the top holder and new battery? Something like that anyway?

If it's a spot weld then heating it won't work. I think welding is used because it actually heats the parts less due to shorter contact time. If you've got a reasonable soldering iron then I'd try unsoldering the battery from the PCB. Could be tricky as it'll be connected to at least the ground plane of the motherboard, which sucks heat away. Might be easier (though it'll look messy) to snip the battery off, then solder some wires between the remaining stubs and a cr2032 holder.

Reply 4 of 12, by rick12373

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Sounds like cutting the old one out and adding one of these might be the best option. Not sure why it has space for 2 batteries though.

https://www.amazon.com/LAMPVPATH-cr2032-Batte … 25002958&sr=8-6

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 5 of 12, by snufkin

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rick12373 wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:45:

Sounds like cutting the old one out and adding one of these might be the best option. Not sure why it has space for 2 batteries though.

https://www.amazon.com/LAMPVPATH-cr2032-Batte … 25002958&sr=8-6

I think that puts 2 cells in series, so produces 6V, which you don't want. I can't just find a ready wired single cell holder, so I'd just look to get a PCB mount 2032 holder, then solder some wires between the holder and the motherboard. Make a note of which pins on the motherboard are +ve. Cover the exposed pins with heat shrink tube or some tape, then some double sided tape or glue to fix the holder in place somewhere safe.

Reply 6 of 12, by rick12373

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snufkin wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:54:
rick12373 wrote on 2021-06-29, 21:45:

Sounds like cutting the old one out and adding one of these might be the best option. Not sure why it has space for 2 batteries though.

https://www.amazon.com/LAMPVPATH-cr2032-Batte … 25002958&sr=8-6

I think that puts 2 cells in series, so produces 6V, which you don't want. I can't just find a ready wired single cell holder, so I'd just look to get a PCB mount 2032 holder, then solder some wires between the holder and the motherboard. Make a note of which pins on the motherboard are +ve. Cover the exposed pins with heat shrink tube or some tape, then some double sided tape or glue to fix the holder in place somewhere safe.

Yeah the two cells is strange, although on that listing it shows the thing connected to what looks like a motherboard.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 7 of 12, by rick12373

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I suppose this would work https://www.amazon.com/CR2032-Button-Battery- … 5003805&sr=8-13 .

If you get the black one it should be easy to see which wire is the +.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 8 of 12, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Why not just use the proper pin header marked Battery / J11 for the external battery replacement pack, or make your own if you can't find it or an equivalent- saves any board-level soldering

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Reply 9 of 12, by snufkin

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Ah. Yes. That makes more sense. You mean just plugging something like this: https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_840.htm on to the obvious header marked 'battery'? I was obsessing about changing the battery so didn't even notice that. I expect the motherboard has diodes to protect the existing cell from being charged. Do you think it would be a good idea to remove the existing battery anyway, in case it leaks?

Reply 10 of 12, by pampilhoso

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snufkin wrote on 2021-06-30, 07:37:

Ah. Yes. That makes more sense. You mean just plugging something like this: https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_840.htm on to the obvious header marked 'battery'? I was obsessing about changing the battery so didn't even notice that. I expect the motherboard has diodes to protect the existing cell from being charged. Do you think it would be a good idea to remove the existing battery anyway, in case it leaks?

I bought my external battery from that exact website 😀

In my case I left the original battery, but I might remove it later on by unsoldering.

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Reply 11 of 12, by rick12373

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Ahh, awesome information. Thanks!

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 12 of 12, by BitWrangler

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I'd just shrinkwrap 3 Energiser Lithium AAs and worry about it again in another couple of decades.

edit: though they don't seem as cheap as they were 5 years back when they were pushing them for digital cameras, or I got the pack on sale.

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