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First post, by Kahenraz

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I bought a small collection of processors off of eBay and one of them had a significant number of bent pins. I was able to correct most of the damage but there were two fatalities.

I tried to look this up myself as there are pinouts available but these pins were not mentioned specifically with anything I referenced and I couldn't figure out for certain whether they are used or not.

I do not have any 486 motherboards so I am unable to test it that way.

I might be able to repair it by soldering the pins back on but I'd like to know whether they are important before I decide how to proceed.

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Reply 1 of 4, by appiah4

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A1 and B1 are Data Pins, D20 and D19 respectively. That CPU won't work without those pins.

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Reply 2 of 4, by Kahenraz

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Thank you. I will try to repair it then.

I think just A2 - A31 are data pins. Pins A1 and B1 are damaged but are not referenced here:

http://www.pchardwarelinks.com/486pin.htm

Can you explain why A1 and B1 aren't identified or how I am reading it wrong?

Reply 3 of 4, by snufkin

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I think that page is listing the logical busses, not pin numbers. So A2-A31 as in the the address bus, and D0-D31 is the data bus.

For the actual pinout you want http://www.pchardwarelinks.com/486pin2.htm , which has the pin numbers in the first column, then various processors in the other columns. So you can see that pin A1 is D20 and B1 is D19.

[This might be easier to follow: http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprmx/h12203.htm
slightly unhelpfully, that doesn't say whether it's looking at the top or bottom, but I think it's top view and not pin view]

Reply 4 of 4, by ThisOldTech

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Sometimes you can place two similar pins inside the socket holes, add a little solder paste to the two missing pin surfaces and then heat gun that corner. Due to the design, it'll never be as strong as pins that were set in the silicon during manufacturing.. but it'll get you a working machine.

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