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First post, by Socket3

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Hi guys. I bought a Dell 1130 CRT monitor today, and brought it home to set up with one of my retro PCs. The CRT is in great shape, bright, perfect geometry and great picture.... but.... there's an occasional "click" accompanied by the picture shrinking for half a second then coming back.

The monitor's case is pretty beat up... deep scratches all over, especially on the front bezel. The metallic dell logo is also scratched and dented. It's like the monitor was stored face down for a long time, and banged around. The tube is thankfully unscratched, and all the buttons work as intended.

I've been searching for a couple of 21" CRTs for a while now, but everything I've come across had really bad wear - as in they were dim and or the geometry was off. This one is has perfect picture and brightness.

The clicking and picture shrink issue really worry me. What could be wrong with it? It doesn't happen often and it's irregular, it can go for an hour and not "click" or it can do it twice in 10 minutes... I know close to nothing about how to fix a CRT, so I'm hoping one of you guys can point me in the right direction - could it be a bad capacitor? Bad electrical connection? Where should I start looking?

I'm worried if I keep using it like this something might generate magic smoke or it will just stop working, and I don't have to tell you guys how rare (and in cases expensive) a good 21" CRT can be.

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Reply 1 of 10, by weedeewee

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Would be nice if you could catch the 'clicking' on video.

Could be a faulty contact/solderjoint somewhere (pcb, internal, connector)
could be the degaus circuitry
could be ...

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Reply 4 of 10, by Meatball

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My VX900 was doing this for a while recently, and I thought for sure it was dead. I decided just to keep using it and enjoy whatever time is left. I posted about it, same as you. So far, however, it's still working and that was a month or two ago - and I used it heavily this past month - the most I've ever used it since I bought it a few years ago. It hasn't really been acting up like it was since I posted. Maybe the same will happen for you in its journey as a 'white dwarf star.'

Reply 5 of 10, by Socket3

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I took the monitor apart today and cleaned it up. It was covered with dust, spider webs and what looked like mud in some areas. Didn't find any obviously damaged components... After cleaning I put it back together to try and record the "click" + flicker, but... it's not doing it anymore. I've had it on for a few hours and so far it hasn't clicked once.

Here's some CRT PR0N for anyone with this fetish:

The CRT's electron gun:

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And this monstrosity is the flyback transformer.

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Perhaps I got lucky and the issue was caused by dirt and grime, and went away as soon as I cleaned the inside of the monitor...

Reply 6 of 10, by Vynix

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I have a Apple M1212 monitor that did the same thing, every time I powered it up, it would do just as you described: a tick with the raster expanding then shrinking back to size.

After using it for a while, it started doing it less and less until it fully stopped, probably was some dust that somehow accumulated under the anode cap and burned off as I let it run.

Proud owner of a Shuttle HOT-555A 430VX motherboard and two wonderful retro laptops, namely a Compaq Armada 1700 [nonfunctional] and a HP Omnibook XE3-GC [fully working :p]

Reply 7 of 10, by dizzydevil

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Hello Socket 3, I have the same monitor.
You can check the operating hours, this is very easily.
Press and hold the - and + buttons at the same time, without releasing them, press the input button.
The OSD will appear, the last line is the running hours.
Write here how many hours you have.

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Reply 8 of 10, by davidrg

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I've had monitors do this too. I've got a bunch of late 90s DEC branded 15" CRTs which all variously do the click, image changes size then returns to normal. I think I've got a few Sun badged Sony displays that also do it.

Interested to hear if a simple cleaning fixes the problem long term!

Reply 9 of 10, by Socket3

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davidrg wrote on 2022-05-05, 09:40:

I've had monitors do this too. I've got a bunch of late 90s DEC branded 15" CRTs which all variously do the click, image changes size then returns to normal. I think I've got a few Sun badged Sony displays that also do it.

Interested to hear if a simple cleaning fixes the problem long term!

Second day of use - still no clicking 😁 Monitor is working great!

Check out how good the brightness and contrast are - it's comparable to a modern 32" Odyssey G5:

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dizzydevil wrote on 2022-05-05, 09:09:
Hello Socket 3, I have the same monitor. You can check the operating hours, this is very easily. Press and hold the - and + butt […]
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Hello Socket 3, I have the same monitor.
You can check the operating hours, this is very easily.
Press and hold the - and + buttons at the same time, without releasing them, press the input button.
The OSD will appear, the last line is the running hours.
Write here how many hours you have.

Here you go - so the last line is the number of operating hours? If so it hasn't seen too much use... 7702 hrs is 320 days... Too bad the case is so damaged. In any case (pun intended) I put 5 of those hours on it last night playing ZHeretic in win98 and Dungeon Keeper 2.

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Reply 10 of 10, by dizzydevil

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Socket3 congratulations on buying a great monitor! I am also happy with the same monitor.
You have a small operating time, 7 thousand hours, I have 10 thousand, judging by the statistics,
most often problems with this tube begin at 14 thousand hours.
Let's hope that we will have these problems even later 😀