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First post, by Sphere478

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I’ve pretty well explored most of the fastest amd and nvidia pci options for my k6-3+ builds but what’s the fastest for matrox? Did they ever make anything faster than a ATI 7500? Being as the 7500 is my best card for these builds I’m wondering if there may be something better than it from matrox.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 1 of 8, by darry

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:38:

I’ve pretty well explored most of the fastest amd and nvidia pci options for my k6-3+ builds but what’s the fastest for matrox? Did they ever make anything faster than a ATI 7500? Being as the 7500 is my best card for these builds I’m wondering if there may be something better than it from matrox.

Fastest in what regard ?

DOS (VGA) performance ?

Direct3D or OpenGL acceleration ?

AFAICR, their last PCI (not PCI Express) solutions were the G450/G550 variants . The 3D performance is in the same ballpark as a Geforce2 MX200 according to http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/g550/index.html. And a Geforce 2 MX200 is no match for a Radeon 7500, at least in this benchmark https://www.anandtech.com/show/872/6 .

Reply 2 of 8, by luckybob

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The reason to get matrox is vga (analog) video quality. Once you are past the g200/g250 the only reason to use matrox is multi-monitor.

also "fastest" card changes with EVERY game. It hardly matters, imho. Get something reliable with good compatibility is my advice.

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Reply 3 of 8, by TrashPanda

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darry wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:57:
Fastest in what regard ? […]
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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:38:

I’ve pretty well explored most of the fastest amd and nvidia pci options for my k6-3+ builds but what’s the fastest for matrox? Did they ever make anything faster than a ATI 7500? Being as the 7500 is my best card for these builds I’m wondering if there may be something better than it from matrox.

Fastest in what regard ?

DOS (VGA) performance ?

Direct3D or OpenGL acceleration ?

AFAICR, their last PCI (not PCI Express) solutions were the G450/G550 variants . The 3D performance is in the same ballpark as a Geforce2 MX200 according to http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/g550/index.html. And a Geforce 2 MX200 is no match for a Radeon 7500, at least in this benchmark https://www.anandtech.com/show/872/6 .

I have a pci-x parhelia which will work just fine in a pci slot, pretty sure it would be faster than the g550.

That said the 450max was faster than the 550.

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Reply 4 of 8, by Sphere478

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-05-17, 05:10:
darry wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:57:
Fastest in what regard ? […]
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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:38:

I’ve pretty well explored most of the fastest amd and nvidia pci options for my k6-3+ builds but what’s the fastest for matrox? Did they ever make anything faster than a ATI 7500? Being as the 7500 is my best card for these builds I’m wondering if there may be something better than it from matrox.

Fastest in what regard ?

DOS (VGA) performance ?

Direct3D or OpenGL acceleration ?

AFAICR, their last PCI (not PCI Express) solutions were the G450/G550 variants . The 3D performance is in the same ballpark as a Geforce2 MX200 according to http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/g550/index.html. And a Geforce 2 MX200 is no match for a Radeon 7500, at least in this benchmark https://www.anandtech.com/show/872/6 .

I have a pci-x parhelia which will work just fine in a pci slot, pretty sure it would be faster than the g550.

have you ever stuck that in a 430hx mobo? if not, could you? I'd be very curious to know if it would work in my tyan s1564

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 5 of 8, by TrashPanda

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-05-17, 05:12:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-05-17, 05:10:
darry wrote on 2022-05-17, 04:57:
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Fastest in what regard ?

DOS (VGA) performance ?

Direct3D or OpenGL acceleration ?

AFAICR, their last PCI (not PCI Express) solutions were the G450/G550 variants . The 3D performance is in the same ballpark as a Geforce2 MX200 according to http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/g550/index.html. And a Geforce 2 MX200 is no match for a Radeon 7500, at least in this benchmark https://www.anandtech.com/show/872/6 .

I have a pci-x parhelia which will work just fine in a pci slot, pretty sure it would be faster than the g550.

have you ever stuck that in a 430hx mobo? if not, could you? I'd be very curious to know if it would work in my tyan s1564

I would have to check what boards I have, not sure I have a 430hx but I’m sure I could find something close.

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Reply 6 of 8, by Sphere478

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Sweet!

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 7 of 8, by dr.zeissler

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I also have a PCI-x Parhelia, but this card only works on Win2k+ so no retro-usage for me...

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Reply 8 of 8, by The Serpent Rider

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G450 PCI was the last PCI card from Matrox for normies. G550 PCI don't have normal DVI or VGA.

darry wrote:

DOS (VGA) performance ?

They are all more or less identical in that regard after G200.

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