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First post, by PlaneVuki

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Hi.

In phil's video about p200, he gets doom 84 fps with: p200 + tseng et6000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1LB4GMpZOU

In his another video, s3 trio64+ beats the tseng et6000 on same system except the cpu is p233mmx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5suEoXTc8

So that tells me that a p200 + s3trio64+ should do better than 84 fps, say maybe 86-ish fps.

The reason I am looking specifically at p200+s3 is because I also have those, but I am only getting 75 fps.

The only difference with my system and his is the motherboard.
I am pretty sure that everything else in system is identical, even my s3 is exact as his, down to the chip numbers.
I use fullscreen doom timedemo demo3 with shareware 1.9, just as he does.
Only mobo is different.

He uses asus sp97-xv, I am using lucky star 5I-VX2B with intelVX chipset.

I also asked a few friends who have p200 to do a similar benchmark with their mobos(non asus) and s3, they also get similar results to mine, far from phil's.

So the question is, what is going on and CAN YOU GUYS GET 86 fps-ish with p200+s3trio64+ ?
(with asus sp97-xv or any other mobo)

Reply 1 of 8, by The Serpent Rider

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Trying to get more fps in vanilla Doom is a pointless endeavor, outside of academic benchmarking. The game is locked at 35fps. If you want more - get FastDoom source port.

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Reply 2 of 8, by AlexZ

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When I had P200MMX I used something like UniVBE to boost frame rate on S3 Virge DX/2 in Duke Nukem 3D. It really helped a bit.

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Reply 4 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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The SiS chipset might be giving Phil's board an edge.

I remember the Doom benchmark ran a bit faster on a PC Chips M571 motherboard (SiS 5598) compared to my Soyo SY-5BT (Intel 430TX). In both cases, a Pentium MMX 166 and an S3 Trio64V+ were used. I don't have the exact numbers anymore, but I remember there was a noticeable difference.

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PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
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Reply 5 of 8, by Gmlb256

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All S3 video cards are quite slower in Mode X, but as The Serpent Rider said it doesn't matter in DOOM because it is capped to 35 FPS. This is unless the OP wants to play third-party maps with a limit-removing source port and those usually don't use Mode X/Y.

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Reply 6 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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Just noticed this video where Phil reviews the Asus SP97-XV and compares it to some other Socket 7 boards. It seems to be among the faster ones, especially in Doom.

So yeah, looks like it's probably the SiS chipset which makes the difference.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
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PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
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Reply 7 of 8, by Gmlb256

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2023-02-20, 15:00:

Just noticed this video where Phil reviews the Asus SP97-XV and compares it to some other Socket 7 boards. It seems to be among the faster ones, especially in Doom.

So yeah, looks like it's probably the SiS chipset which makes the difference.

For me it seems that the SiS chipset handles performance in Mode X/Y better, but fares slightly worse in everything else (except Quake in software rendering) compared to the Intel 430TX chipset.

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