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First post, by johnvosh

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As the title says, I have an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum version 1 motherboard that is in need of a recap. I had plugged this system in after putting in a new power supply since I stole the one from the case this board is in. I plugged it in and the system boots, ran a couple of games, no issues. Well, I took and was getting to putting the case side on, then I noticed that I've got some cap's right next to the socket that have started to leak out the top 🙁 I really like this board as it has AGP and socket 939. Running an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ CPU, 2GB DDR-Ram, WD Raptor HDD, Windows XP SP3

Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of where I can buy a recap kit for this board? I am located in Canada (Edmonton, Alberta). Or even better, someone from around the Edmonton, Alberta area that can recap motherboards as I have zero experience when it comes to soldering.

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Reply 1 of 12, by kyonthinh+

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It's easy if you know how to solder. If you dont, most phone or computer store can do it. But if you gonna do it, better replace all the caps instead of just these 7. You dont need a kit either, just write the value of the caps, the quantity and then order it online.

Reply 2 of 12, by Repo Man11

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I tread the middle ground - with a board like this I wouldn't replace all of the caps, but instead all of the brand where even one is failing. If there is one bulging 6.3 volt, 1800 microfarad cap failing, and you only replace that single one, within a few months (or less) you'll look and see that some or all of the same brand and rating are now bulging.

IMO the skill level for removing and replacing capacitors isn't that high. But you do need to ensure that you get the polarity correct, so pay attention to the orientation when removing the caps (take a photo) and be sure to orient the news ones correctly. A vacuum desoldering gun makes it easy, but that's a high price to pay for someone who doesn't intend to do this often. I cheat; I will remove the caps by heating each leg on one side of the board while grasping and pulling on the cap on the other, moving from side to side until the cap comes out. When I replace them, I have the wires coming out of the cap trimmed short, and I will press the cap into place while heating the solder pads and I alternate side to side and press it in a little at a time. This is more time consuming, but you don't need expensive equipment to do it, just a decent soldering iron and patience.

I have an anti static pad that I do this sort of work on because I'd hate to go to all of the work of replacing caps only to realize I had static damaged the motherboard while doing so.

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Reply 3 of 12, by johnvosh

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 19:48:

I tread the middle ground - with a board like this I wouldn't replace all of the caps, but instead all of the brand where even one is failing. If there is one bulging 6.3 volt, 1800 microfarad cap failing, and you only replace that single one, within a few months (or less) you'll look and see that some or all of the same brand and rating are now bulging.

IMO the skill level for removing and replacing capacitors isn't that high. But you do need to ensure that you get the polarity correct, so pay attention to the orientation when removing the caps (take a photo) and be sure to orient the news ones correctly. A vacuum desoldering gun makes it easy, but that's a high price to pay for someone who doesn't intend to do this often. I cheat; I will remove the caps by heating each leg on one side of the board while grasping and pulling on the cap on the other, moving from side to side until the cap comes out. When I replace them, I have the wires coming out of the cap trimmed short, and I will press the cap into place while heating the solder pads and I alternate side to side and press it in a little at a time. This is more time consuming, but you don't need expensive equipment to do it, just a decent soldering iron and patience.

I have an anti static pad that I do this sort of work on because I'd hate to go to all of the work of replacing caps only to realize I had static damaged the motherboard while doing so.

Where do you recommend buying high quality capacitors from?

Reply 4 of 12, by Repo Man11

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Begging the moderators indulgence, for price and ease of ordering I've used these guys several times now. What I do not recommend is buying no name Chinese capacitors, it isn't worth the risk. Also, you need to be sure that you are buying capacitors that are the same physical size (or very close to the same size) to avoid possible clearance issues so measure the ones you are replacing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143838309190?hash=it … ABk9SR4rmt9XrYQ

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Reply 5 of 12, by johnvosh

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 20:15:

Begging the moderators indulgence, for price and ease of ordering I've used these guys several times now. What I do not recommend is buying no name Chinese capacitors, it isn't worth the risk. Also, you need to be sure that you are buying capacitors that are the same physical size (or very close to the same size) to avoid possible clearance issues so measure the ones you are replacing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143838309190?hash=it … ABk9SR4rmt9XrYQ

Would these ones be okay?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/144226120326?hash=ite … ABk9SR8S_qdbrYQ
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/185161739280?var=692919359114

Reply 7 of 12, by johnvosh

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 20:32:

Nichicon capacitors have worked well for me, but I have no experience with KZE.

Thank you for your help. Another question... what type of soldering iron do I need to get/best type of solder? Sorry, like I said, I have zero experience when it comes to soldering, but have watched people do it (Adrian's digital basement on Youtube)....

Reply 8 of 12, by Repo Man11

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I have an Aoyue 469 which is a decent entry level soldering iron and I would consider it to be the minimum required for this sort of work. I've mostly used standard rosin core solder.

"I'd rather be rich than stupid" - Jack Handey

Reply 9 of 12, by shevalier

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johnvosh wrote on 2023-04-07, 19:25:

Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of where I can buy a recap kit for this board? I am located in Canada (Edmonton, Alberta). Or even better, someone from around the Edmonton, Alberta area that can recap motherboards as I have zero experience when it comes to soldering.

For CPU VRM 4V dia 8mm
https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/KEMET/A75 … K1bb2tDtQ%3D%3D
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for input 16V dia 10mm
https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/KEMET/A75 … 252BSzAuQ%3D%3D

It must be something like that
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Reply 10 of 12, by rasz_pl

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johnvosh try https://ents.ca Edmonton New Technology Society, Makerspace in Edmonton, Alberta
Open 24 hours
Phone: +1 780-701-9400
Im not suggesting you sign up at $100/month just to fix your board 😀 call them and ask if someone can help you one off etc

Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 20:49:

I have an Aoyue 469 which is a decent

no its not, in fact its the worst kind one can buy 🙁

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Reply 11 of 12, by Repo Man11

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rasz_pl wrote on 2023-04-09, 02:33:
johnvosh try https://ents.ca Edmonton New Technology Society, Makerspace in Edmonton, Alberta Open 24 hours Phone: +1 780-701-94 […]
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johnvosh try https://ents.ca Edmonton New Technology Society, Makerspace in Edmonton, Alberta
Open 24 hours
Phone: +1 780-701-9400

Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 20:49:

I have an Aoyue 469 which is a decent

no its not, in fact its the worst kind one can buy 🙁

Mine has worked fine for me.

"I'd rather be rich than stupid" - Jack Handey

Reply 12 of 12, by johnvosh

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rasz_pl wrote on 2023-04-09, 02:33:
johnvosh try https://ents.ca Edmonton New Technology Society, Makerspace in Edmonton, Alberta Open 24 hours Phone: +1 780-701-94 […]
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johnvosh try https://ents.ca Edmonton New Technology Society, Makerspace in Edmonton, Alberta
Open 24 hours
Phone: +1 780-701-9400
Im not suggesting you sign up at $100/month just to fix your board 😀 call them and ask if someone can help you one off etc

Repo Man11 wrote on 2023-04-07, 20:49:

I have an Aoyue 469 which is a decent

no its not, in fact its the worst kind one can buy 🙁

Thanks! I did take and e-mail http://sterlingelectronics.ca/ which is in the west end of Edmonton, just waiting to hear back from them