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First post, by smtkr

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I did a quick google search last weekend and couldn't find an obvious answer so I spent some money to find out empirically if buffered ECC memory works in a 440BX motherboard. I tested on an ASUS P3B-F motherboard with a Pentium III-S CPU. The manual says it supports ECC memory, but doesn't distinguish between registered and unbuffered.

I used two double sided (9 chips per side) 256MB sticks of registered ECC PC133 SDRAM with these codes on the sticker
Micron
MT18LSDT3272G-133E1
PC133R-333-542-B1

What I found is that these behaved like high density 256MB sticks in a 440BX motherboard. The BIOS and Windows could only see half of each stick. This was an unexpected result. I was expected them to either not work at all, or work seamlessly. My guess is the registers on each stick present themselves to the memory controller in a way that appears like a high density stick, thus the behaviour.

Performance was identical to regular CAS3 PC133 SDRAM. You need to flip a switch in the BIOS to turn on ECC mode (see manual to find the setting).

We could probably verify my theory about the register by using a 128MB buffered ECC stick and see if the whole thing can be seen in the BIOS. I don't feel like spending any additional money on this, since I don't think ECC memory adds much value to what most of us are trying to do with our vintage computers.

If anyone happens to have a 128MB registered ECC stick laying around and wants to try, please post your results here for the sake of knowledge.

Reply 1 of 3, by goletsa

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I have 512MB Micron ECC REG PC133R, work as 128MB.
Same limitations.
Not half but 128MB.

Reply 2 of 3, by ThomasTt

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Hello,

as i am building PC based on the same board (P3B-F) i am looking for as much information as i can. Found this post and must register. I have in this board 4x 128 MB DIMM HP KMM377S1620CTH which is registered RAM with ECC (https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/download_d … M377S1620CTH-GH - sorry i dont know hot to make hyperlink here) and they works wery well. So total is 512 MB. When i red this post i tryed to look in my box with RAMs and i found one 256 MB of registered RAM with ECC (https://jp.digchip.com/datasheets/download_da … er=M377S3323BT0). System boot normaly and show 256 MB, works well. In the datasheet is not writen if it use one or two rank, but it uses 16Mx8 chips, so i think there is two ranks.
So it seems that registered RAM can be used but with same restrictions like normal unregistered RAM (chip density up to 128 Mbit, chip organisation and module rank organisation - 128 MB / 1 rank). As i look in datasheet to Micron MT18LSDT3272G-133E1 used by smtkr (https://www.datasheets360.com/pdf/-2789923046504505561), it seems that this module use the different chip organisations (32Mx4) and it use same config like my module (32Mx72). So problem is chips used on them. 32Mx8 is not compatible with 440BX. If you would use MT18LSDT3272AG instead of MT18LSDT3272G than it would works fine.

I hope this help. BTW becouse im new here - hello everybody.

Reply 3 of 3, by ThomasTt

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Edit:
" 32Mx8 is not compatible with 440BX" - it is wrong, corect is 32Mx4 is not compatible with 440BX.
It means that the module MT18LSDT3272G is single rank (256 MB / rank) and BX can adres only 128 MB / rank. One DIMM slot uses two raks, so there are 8 ranks total.