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First post, by Atom Ant

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Guys, can you help me, why is my new system slow?

-Abit Be6-II,
-Pentium II 450MHz,
-256MB PC133 SDRam,
-3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 AGP,
-fast SD Card hard disk,
-Windows 98 SE

So in 3Dmark2000 i should receive above 2000 points I think. It is only 1500 🙁.

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I am surprised the AGP speed is just 2x, but that should be ok, as the Voodoo 5 5500 also running with 2x. One IDE controller driver i could not install properly in device manager.

My high end of '96 gaming machine;
Intel PR440FX - Pentium Pro 200MHz 512K, Matrox Millenium I 4MB, Creative 3D Blaster Voodoo II 12MB SLI, 128MB EDO RAM, Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, 4x Creative CD reader, Windows 95...

Reply 1 of 8, by PcBytes

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Check the In Order Queue Depth setting.

From badcaps dot net:
"Abit has a setting called "In Order Queue Depth". If you overclock the chipset, they automatically change it to 1. Put it back to 8 and you'll recover the speed a 440BX is known for. My board was still perfectly stable at 133fsb that way."

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Reply 2 of 8, by H3nrik V!

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IIRC, the BX chipset was AGPx2 only, so I'm not surprised by that 😀

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 3 of 8, by auron

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1500s looks to be correct for p2 450. very similar results here: https://thandor.net/benchmark/21

one thing you can do is run the RAM at CL2, since PC133 usually supports that when ran at 100mhz, that may give you a tiny boost.

as for the IDE issue, it's perhaps a problem with the SD adapter. some posts suggest that SD card size can play into this as well.

Reply 4 of 8, by Atom Ant

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Thx, Order Queue Depth setting was good. Well, yes, than it is just less what I've remembered how much was. Seems this 3DMark2000 very much processor speed affected, since as I changed memory to CL2-2-2 and bumped CPU speed a little bit up, it got better;

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My high end of '96 gaming machine;
Intel PR440FX - Pentium Pro 200MHz 512K, Matrox Millenium I 4MB, Creative 3D Blaster Voodoo II 12MB SLI, 128MB EDO RAM, Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, 4x Creative CD reader, Windows 95...

Reply 5 of 8, by theiceman085

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I am afraid that cannot help you with your quesion op. On the contrary acutally. I have a question about that topic myself.

How do you know that these points are too low for your system?

Is there a point list what to accept from certain system specs or do you just had a different results with another similar system?

I am also interested in getting into bench marking. And I wonder if there any sources to know that to expect from the different systems?

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Reply 6 of 8, by rasz_pl

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Keep in mind Voodoo 4 4500 sucked. It ran at Voodoo 3 3000 speeds in most games, sometimes faster (Q3), sometimes even a little slower (UT)

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Reply 7 of 8, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Atom Ant wrote on 2023-08-27, 13:23:

Seems this 3DMark2000 very much processor speed affected, since as I changed memory to CL2-2-2 and bumped CPU speed a little bit up, it got better;

That card in general scales very strongly up to around 1GHz mark, check this old review for example:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/641/10

Another fact is that it isn't very fast card overall, so I'd say your numbers are more than likely normal considering the specs.

Reply 8 of 8, by Atom Ant

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Well I remembered with Vodoo3 2000 well above 2000 points i got. However i had Celeron 700MHz processzor that time.
Now I checked with further overclock, quite easily I could switch the Pentium II processor to 520MHz and,
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that is +300 points compared to the base 450MHz. So yes, Voodoo4 4500 is quite need fast processor.

Anybody knows how i can update my HPT366 HDD controller to the latest firmware?

My high end of '96 gaming machine;
Intel PR440FX - Pentium Pro 200MHz 512K, Matrox Millenium I 4MB, Creative 3D Blaster Voodoo II 12MB SLI, 128MB EDO RAM, Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, 4x Creative CD reader, Windows 95...