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First post, by LChackr

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I have a ROM card in my 486DLC PC with XTIDE on it. I have a working bootable floppy in Drive A. The system boots to that floppy if XTIDE is not enabled. If I enable XTIDE and try to get it to boot from the floppy it tries to read the disk (drive motor/heads engage) but it says Non-System Disk.

Has anyone run into this before? Why would the system be unable to boot from a floppy only when XTIDE is active?

Thanks!

Reply 2 of 3, by Jo22

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LChackr wrote on 2023-09-05, 21:13:

UPDATE: It boots if I disable the internal 486DLC cache. 🤦‍♂️

I guess I need to report a bug?

Maybe. 🤷‍♂️

I assume it somehow has to do with DMA and the caching of certain memory regions.
Floppy i/o uses DMA controller.

Thing is, there are several ways of controlling (flushing) the 486DLC cache on a 386 motherboard.
Some motherboards are 486DLC aware, even have support in chipset and BIOS.
They don't need a DOS utility to activate the 486DLC cache.

On the other hand, those are likely 486 era chipsets and support a real 486, as well,
so there's not much of a reason to use them with a 486DLC amd not a full 486.

By contrast, vintage 386 motherboards can be given new life by installing a 386DX40 or a 486DLC.
And those usually require certain hacks to make the 486DLC cache work.

Anyway, I'm just a layman here.
Maybe there are certain settings to try or alternate 486DLC DOS utilities that will fix the issue? 🤷‍♂️

Edit: As a workaround, you could try to not enable 486DLC cache in BIOS and instead use a DOS utility.
It's no real solution to the issue, of course, but the right DOS utility may support the same method of cache control as BIOS.
If the chipset/socket has the appropriate control lines, I mean. The official Cyrix utilities are maybe a good start.

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Reply 3 of 3, by LChackr

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Jo22 wrote on 2023-09-05, 21:28:

As a workaround, you could try to not enable 486DLC cache in BIOS and instead use a DOS utility.
It's no real solution to the issue, of course, but the right DOS utility may support the same method of cache control as BIOS.
If the chipset/socket has the appropriate control lines, I mean. The official Cyrix utilities are maybe a good start.

Yeah, this is a Cyrix-aware motherboard and even directly mentions Cyrix cache by name in BIOS. This is also a late-model 386 board with a combination 386/486 chipset. I suppose I can disable the cache in BIOS and enable with a utility. Thanks!