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First post, by Kahenraz

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I bought one of these to play with and found that getting drivers installed for it is non-intuitive. I already knew that this is not a traditional Live! card and does not work with the normal driver pack. However, there is already
a driver pack available from Creative specifically for this card: SBL5DL_DRVPACK_LB.exe.

The problem is that this driver pack does not work when the card hasn't yet been detected. With the card installed in a Windows XP system as an unknown device, the driver pack installer reports an error: "Setup could not detect any Sound Blaster Audio card on your system."

After opening the exe with WinRAR, I found a file Drivers.cab, which I then used to install the drivers manually. The card worked fine in this way. I also found that the driver pack also installs correctly, now that the card already has drivers installed.

This is silly. The driver pack is supposed to install the drivers. What good is the driver pack installer of I have to manually extract the drivers and force them to install first. Am I missing an important step in this procedure? Because this is ridiculous.

Reply 1 of 10, by technokater

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I jsut had a pure clusterf*ck with a SB0100. Nothing I got from the Creative Support site worked. I ended up installing a pack from vogonsdrivers. You can try this. Note the comment about Win2k/XP at the bottom, maybe this works for you.

Reply 2 of 10, by Kahenraz

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I found that Creative is mirroring the same driver pack as provided by Dell (or vice versa). Dell's installer though reports this driver pack as a "patch", which explains why it wouldn't install without having the device having already been setup with drivers previously.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drive … driverid=r69382

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These driver packs are missing all of the companion programs that are typically included, with the exception of the mixer. I've been unable to locate the original install media to find a replacement. It must be included on some Dell CD somewhere.

Reply 3 of 10, by DerBaum

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Kahenraz wrote on 2023-11-09, 13:19:

I've been unable to locate the original install media to find a replacement. It must be included on some Dell CD somewhere.

Like this?
https://archive.org/details/dimension4500cds

FCKGW-RHQQ2

Reply 4 of 10, by Joseph_Joestar

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Note that Dell had released two similarly named cards - SB0200 and SB0220.

The SB0200 is the cut down version and not a real SBLive. On the other hand, the SB0220 is a proper SBLive, albeit with some missing features like no AUD_EXT header for the LiveDrive. When searching for drivers, it might be difficult to distinguish between the two models due to their names being almost identical.

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PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
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Reply 5 of 10, by Kahenraz

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DerBaum wrote on 2023-11-09, 13:32:
Kahenraz wrote on 2023-11-09, 13:19:

I've been unable to locate the original install media to find a replacement. It must be included on some Dell CD somewhere.

Like this?
https://archive.org/details/dimension4500cds

The Sound Blaster Live! Value Digital 1024 appears to be the SB0220, which uses the proper full-featured 10K1 chip. The SB0200 is based on the Sound Blaster 5.1 (note the absence of "Live!") and is not the same audio chip at all as the 10K1. I think these are actually modified AudioPCI silicon. They are not compatible with either the AudioPCI or 10K1-based DOS drivers, however. So they are only useful from within Windows.

I still believe that drivers for this came on their own disc, if at all. Or maybe it was only ever available from a restore disc. I've examined the following ISOs. None of them have drivers for the SB0200.

Dell Dimension ResourceCD for Reinstalling Device Drivers and Using Diagnostics, Utilities, and Online Documentation.iso
SHA1: f8a4f2c82e430e3b03b3d9d07515767d71c0534f

Dell Dimension ResourceCD.iso
SHA1: 002e269758a79fcd84c77607df51bf7b7598d3ee

Dell Tools CD For Reinstalling Dell-Installed Software.iso
SHA1: 135f9e69f406f697833abf3781ba4adddf36cbc7

Drivers Utilities and Applications Inspiron 8100.iso
SHA1: 3adbfa569a06df927a1f6a4d0ca6dc79e4a7f9f4

I only found drivers for the Sound Blaster AudioPCI 64V and Sound Blaster Live! 512V.

I checked the disc specifically labeled for the Dimension 8100, since this is the PC I had which came with either a SB0200 of a SB0220 (I can't remember which).

Reply 6 of 10, by Kahenraz

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I found a copy of the Dell driver CD, which includes the bundled applications, but it still has the same problem where it won't detect the card without having drivers for the card already installed. This is a really bizarre chicken and egg problem.

https://archive.org/details/Sound_Blaster_Liv … Technology_2003

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Reply 7 of 10, by Kahenraz

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I found another one. Same problem; it won't install if drivers aren't installed first.

https://archive.org/details/sound_blaster_live

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Reply 8 of 10, by DarthSun

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I know it works with this, I use it for SB0220, but SB02xx is ok. Previous sound drivers must be deleted, because the Creative package then tends not to see the card. https://mega.nz/file/FuwXlRhK#pFFzDoYpnmES0qx … mdoY0vwSg6xuFIA

Reply 9 of 10, by Kahenraz

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The SB0220 is not the same as the SB0200. The SB0200 isn't a true Live! card and seems to be a modified Sound Blaster 5.1, which itself seems to be a modified AudioPCI. It has nothing to do with the EMU10K1 chip found on the Live! cards.

Reply 10 of 10, by DarthSun

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Kahenraz wrote on 2023-11-09, 19:38:

The SB0220 is not the same as the SB0200. The SB0200 isn't a true Live! card and seems to be a modified Sound Blaster 5.1, which itself seems to be a modified AudioPCI. It has nothing to do with the EMU10K1 chip found on the Live! cards.

Then it's really a completely different chip, I didn't even think about it, I knew it was like that. I have several SB0220s in my inventory, even these are different subversions, but the linked driver is good for them.
So now you didn't even manage to solve the operation?