For the chipset, look for "VIA Hyperion Pro Treiber 5.24a"(multilanguage), as it supports the VIA P4M900.

The only win98 drivers I don't see on the MSI archive website, are those for the onboard ALC883 sound chip..... the other chipset/lan/pata drivers are all there tho'

giantclam wrote on 2024-01-06, 09:08:

The only win98 drivers I don't see on the MSI archive website, are those for the onboard ALC883 sound chip..... the other chipset/lan/pata drivers are all there tho'

If it's an HD Audio codec (which is how the OP described it)... is that the end of the matter? Or is it possible for HD Audio chips to have 98SE drivers?

From my understanding if AC97 compatible then yes Windows 98, if not then no. The datasheet for ALC883 does not list AC97 so my guess is XP and above.....
(am talking about these onboard HD audio codec chips.....not add-on PCI cards.)

Yeah the onboard audio is a write off for Win98. There has never been any drivers for it so thats a dead horse. But that can be disabled in the BIOS so shouldnt ever be a resource problem for the OS so Im not bothered by that. Together with the fact that I would prefer a Creative Sound Blaster anyway the onboard sound isnt something Im interested in at all.

The rest of it should work though right?

I cant even get my GeForce 6200 to work in it at the minute.
I think the 4in1 drivers work, they seemed to install alright, which puts the onboard VGA to bed too by default as I wont be using it and when I plug in the 6200 it seems to disable itself anyway, so again not a resource problem for Win98.

I just dont know what Im doing wrong with the video drivers.

The LAN also isnt a problem as I wont be using it and can disable it in the BIOS.

Well thats where Ive got to so far today, which means I got nowhere with the boards drivers at all except for the 4in1 drivers.

For years I didn't use the LAN on my WIn98SE, but eventually I realised it's useful for transferring files, and later I found an interest in getting the machine onto the internet. So don't write it off just yet - you might change your mind! 😀

I use my own 56k dial up for that 😉

Curious what version of the nVidia driver you tried. Also there are known issues with VIA chipsets and some nVidia video cards/drivers AFAIK.
Something with the "gart" stuff irrc...

What storage are you using? SATA or PATA?

Since you are using a PCI-E mainboard, you will need a different approach to get your PCI-E Nvidia card running:
Windows 98SE PCI-E graphic card support

Horun wrote on 2024-01-07, 05:08:

Curious what version of the nVidia driver you tried. Also there are known issues with VIA chipsets and some nVidia video cards/drivers AFAIK.
Something with the "gart" stuff irrc...

81.98.

VivienM wrote on 2024-01-07, 05:37:

What storage are you using? SATA or PATA?

Ive only tried 40Gb PATA Maxtor at the minute.
There is an IDE or RAID mode in the BIOS so I guess I could use SATA.
I only have a a 250Gb SATA disk and didnt want to waste time formatting it.

Well I stand with cocked hat.
I tried the fw9x8269.rar [16.2 MB] drivers with a XFX 7100GS and it seems to work.
I have 1024x768 @ 24.
It wont shut down properly, which is a problem but I cant believe a 7100GS actually works in Win98.

Will the Audigy FX PCIe card work with Win98?

Or the X-Fi cards?

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-07, 17:50:

Or the X-Fi cards?

I thought the X-Fi cards, including the PCI ones, were a no for 98... (and in fact, my incomplete 98SE project that may never get finished has an Audigy 2 ZS for that very reason... )

Did you apply the Win98se "shut down" patch ?

VivienM wrote on 2024-01-07, 18:15:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-07, 17:50:

Or the X-Fi cards?

I thought the X-Fi cards, including the PCI ones, were a no for 98... (and in fact, my incomplete 98SE project that may never get finished has an Audigy 2 ZS for that very reason... )

So its upto an Audigy 2 ZS and thats it?

Horun wrote on 2024-01-07, 18:20:

Did you apply the Win98se "shut down" patch ?

No, but I will now you mentioned it.

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-07, 16:58:

It wont shut down properly, which is a problem but I cant believe a 7100GS actually works in Win98.

You'll need this regarding the shutdown issue and Nvidia:
Windows 98 SE Shutdown Issue With The Last NVidia Driver

There is also an official MS Win98SE shutdown patch for hanging on exit....search ms kb239887 and 004756us8.exe

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-07, 18:54:

VivienM wrote on 2024-01-07, 18:15:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-07, 17:50:

Or the X-Fi cards?

I thought the X-Fi cards, including the PCI ones, were a no for 98... (and in fact, my incomplete 98SE project that may never get finished has an Audigy 2 ZS for that very reason... )

So its upto an Audigy 2 ZS and thats it?

That's the impression I've gotten from this forum, yup...

Worth noting: I don't know about some of the later lower end models, like the CA0106 stuff. Maybe some of those would have 98SE support, maybe not, but I don't think you want those anyways, you want to stick to the flagship models like the 2 ZS...