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Reply 20 of 32, by Sombrero

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-03, 10:54:

So if its tight that you need something to remove it then that's just fine for Molex and far better than being easy to remove.

Sure, too loose is worse, but I'd prefer the nice normal tight fit over Excalibur stuck in the rock. I damaged the molex to floppy power adapter when I yanked it off with the pliers, it was that stuck.

I usually stay as far as I can from chinesium (even their IDE cables crumbled in my hands) but for example that SD/IDE adapter mentioned above has perfectly non-problematic power connectors, chinesium or not.

Reply 21 of 32, by Trashbytes

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Sombrero wrote on 2024-04-03, 11:06:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-03, 10:54:

So if its tight that you need something to remove it then that's just fine for Molex and far better than being easy to remove.

Sure, too loose is worse, but I'd prefer the nice normal tight fit over Excalibur stuck in the rock. I damaged the molex to floppy power adapter when I yanked it off with the pliers, it was that stuck.

I usually stay as far as I can from chinesium (even their IDE cables crumbled in my hands) but for example that SD/IDE adapter mentioned above has perfectly non-problematic power connectors, chinesium or not.

Oh yea, that little adapter was put together with a good bit of care which is rather unusual for stuff out of china.

Perhaps your floppy molex had a bad pin fit.

Reply 22 of 32, by Sombrero

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-03, 11:14:

Perhaps your floppy molex had a bad pin fit.

The adapter I used next after tossing the first one also got stuck in there, but not as badly. I probably loosened it a bit when I Conan the Barbarianed the first one out.

But that IDE/SATA adapter could have a not so great power connector, thus my question to Repo Man11. I'm wondering is it just mine like that.

Reply 23 of 32, by Repo Man11

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Sombrero wrote on 2024-04-03, 10:18:
Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:48:

I also like these because of the tidy installation.

Have you had any trouble with the floppy power connector with them?

I have one of those and the power connector gets so incredibly stuck in it I once had to pull it off with pliers.

I've had those where the Berg connector is a very tight fit, but never to the point of being a problem.

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Reply 24 of 32, by douglar

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-04-03, 19:26:

I've had those where the Berg connector is a very tight fit, but never to the point of being a problem.

Depends on how much it's been used I guess. I get used to the old worn ones that apart with a gentle tug and then I bend the pins on one that holds tight. Sometimes it's a combination of the plug and the adapter. I've run into some pairs that are so tight that they require a flat head screwdriver to sperate. I'm ready to give the plastic nub on those a buff with some sandpaper.

Reply 25 of 32, by ubiq

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douglar wrote on 2024-04-03, 19:48:
Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-04-03, 19:26:

I've had those where the Berg connector is a very tight fit, but never to the point of being a problem.

Depends on how much it's been used I guess. I get used to the old worn ones that apart with a gentle tug and then I bend the pins on one that holds tight. Sometimes it's a combination of the plug and the adapter. I've run into some pairs that are so tight that they require a flat head screwdriver to sperate. I'm ready to give the plastic nub on those a buff with some sandpaper.

Yup, the molex connector is likely just getting hung up on the little nub on the bottom. For these adapters, I just slide something flat like a spudger or screwdriver under it and gently pull. Using brute force has a good chance of bending the connector and cracking the solder joints.

Reply 26 of 32, by revolstar

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A bit of a noob question - is there any advantage in using these SD card adapters speed-wise? I.e. are these faster than traditional hard drives?

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Reply 27 of 32, by Trashbytes

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revolstar wrote on 2024-04-04, 05:40:

A bit of a noob question - is there any advantage in using these SD card adapters speed-wise? I.e. are these faster than traditional hard drives?

Depends on the HDD honestly, if the HDD is designed to work with ATA100 or 133 and can saturate that speed then the HDD will be much faster for transfer speeds, itll still be slower for seek speed as its not NAND, SD cards that work with these adapters are limited by the controller used on them ..being they are cheap the controllers usually have slow transfer speeds at best limited to ATA 33/66 speeds and usually cant saturate that. (Seek times will be as fast as the NAND allows however)

If you want high transfer and seek speeds then grabbing a Sata to IDE adapter and using a SSD will be the fastest option, failing that using a fast SATA HDD 10k RPM is also good. e.g a WD Raptor

Reply 28 of 32, by revolstar

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-04, 05:52:

If you want high transfer and seek speeds then grabbing a Sata to IDE adapter and using a SSD will be the fastest option, failing that using a fast SATA HDD 10k RPM is also good. e.g a WD Raptor

Aye, thanks, maybe I'll give it a go somewhere down the line.

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Reply 29 of 32, by psaez

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ubiq wrote on 2024-04-02, 05:26:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-02, 02:19:
DarthSun wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:58:

Chinese IDEtoSD converter.
ChIDE_SD.jpg

That actually looks pretty decent, like they actually took some care in fabbing it, Ive had some horror parts come out of China buying only based on the picture and price.

How much did this little part cost ?

I have a few and they've been pretty foolproof. I use one in my Socket 7 mITX system. It even puts up with the extension cable I have hooked up to it.
IMG_6173.jpeg

DarthSun wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:58:

Chinese IDEtoSD converter.
ChIDE_SD.jpg

Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html

I have a very huge problem, when I activate DMA on Windows 95, after installing drivers, windows 95 gets corrupted and forces me to reinstall.

These adapters are not compatible with DMA? only with PIO?

Is this motherboard: DFI CA64-TC

Reply 30 of 32, by douglar

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psaez wrote on 2024-04-21, 18:11:
Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html […]
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ubiq wrote on 2024-04-02, 05:26:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-02, 02:19:

That actually looks pretty decent, like they actually took some care in fabbing it, Ive had some horror parts come out of China buying only based on the picture and price.

How much did this little part cost ?

I have a few and they've been pretty foolproof. I use one in my Socket 7 mITX system. It even puts up with the extension cable I have hooked up to it.
IMG_6173.jpeg

DarthSun wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:58:

Chinese IDEtoSD converter.
ChIDE_SD.jpg

Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html

I have a very huge problem, when I activate DMA on Windows 95, after installing drivers, windows 95 gets corrupted and forces me to reinstall.

These adapters are not compatible with DMA? only with PIO?

Is this motherboard: DFI CA64-TC

I have recently read a report on this forum that the via 686b south bridge doesn’t like talking udma to sinitechi sd to ide bridges

Edit, my mistake, Darry was talking about pata/sata bridges
Re: Fastest SD card converter for IDE interface?

Reply 31 of 32, by DarthSun

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psaez wrote on 2024-04-21, 18:11:
Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html […]
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ubiq wrote on 2024-04-02, 05:26:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-02, 02:19:

That actually looks pretty decent, like they actually took some care in fabbing it, Ive had some horror parts come out of China buying only based on the picture and price.

How much did this little part cost ?

I have a few and they've been pretty foolproof. I use one in my Socket 7 mITX system. It even puts up with the extension cable I have hooked up to it.
IMG_6173.jpeg

DarthSun wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:58:

Chinese IDEtoSD converter.
ChIDE_SD.jpg

Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html

I have a very huge problem, when I activate DMA on Windows 95, after installing drivers, windows 95 gets corrupted and forces me to reinstall.

These adapters are not compatible with DMA? only with PIO?

Is this motherboard: DFI CA64-TC

I didn't even pay attention, I see a picture rescue that smooth here HDD, went under Win98 in Udma. P4 is on the test bench now and then I try it, win98 and xp.

Reply 32 of 32, by darry

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psaez wrote on 2024-04-21, 18:11:
Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html […]
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ubiq wrote on 2024-04-02, 05:26:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-02, 02:19:

That actually looks pretty decent, like they actually took some care in fabbing it, Ive had some horror parts come out of China buying only based on the picture and price.

How much did this little part cost ?

I have a few and they've been pretty foolproof. I use one in my Socket 7 mITX system. It even puts up with the extension cable I have hooked up to it.
IMG_6173.jpeg

DarthSun wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:58:

Chinese IDEtoSD converter.
ChIDE_SD.jpg

Hi, I purchased one, seems to be exactly the same model: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006307922050.html

I have a very huge problem, when I activate DMA on Windows 95, after installing drivers, windows 95 gets corrupted and forces me to reinstall.

These adapters are not compatible with DMA? only with PIO?

Is this motherboard: DFI CA64-TC

I have never tried one of those FC1307 based adapters on a VIA IDE controller, AFAICR. They work fine with DMA enabled on the PIIX4E based IDE controller on 440BX based boards in my experience.