whops new to forums, tried to post this at under the hard disk's heading,,,moderator if need be can you shift it,,, thx 😀

My .11 and .12 died

The .10's still working though

It's much less a "damn seagate", but more of a "damn seagate's malaysia plants!!!"

I have 2 500GB drives that failed and 1 that still works. All of my 250GB and 1TB drives are good, 5 of each. All of them are Seagate.

Considering recent events, I think most hard drive manufacturers have cleaned up their act and hopefully washed away all the things that let to making the occasional defective product.

I think seagate went downhill after they purchased Maxtor. I ever read in some forum somewhere that a seagate employee told someone over the phone they were putting Maxtor parts in their drives and the new ones are junk.

I have a whole bunch of st340016A (40-gig) drives still running after 7-8 years, but I am not sure I would touch one of their newer drives.

hard drives die and are DOA all the time regardless of brand though for some reason seagate has a bad rap worse than the death star series. perhaps they don't have as good of yields as other HDD companies.

Yeah I agree hardisk do die, even out of the box, (MTBF), but the quality these days,,,I looked their web site forums, and people talk about bad batch of hd's. I changed maybe 20 hard disk's till now and still find the old ball bearing type's much more reliable,,even in failing you could understand,,yup it's going going gone,,,these new liquid ball bearing ones,,,they still keep on going but their work rate is dimished and quickly. I mean after using your comp for hours you start to feel it's rythm and all that. These latest just gave me a bad taste and wanted to went. Ty for your replies.

Either I'm lucky with Hard Disks or my Luck with Hard Drives are all really good. In 20 years, I've only faced 2 or 3 bad sectors from a single 1GB hard drive (can't remember which brand) while doing a surface scan. Even then, I doubt if it's the hard drive or one of those obscure IDE cables problem which spit out random "bad sectors". Come to think of it, most (almost all) of my drives are either WDs or Maxtors.

your very lucky.

All my recent failures where WD drives: a 1TB one, a 320gb 2.5" one, a 640gb 2.5" one and finally a 1.5TB one. All my seagates are running fine, a couple of them have 2-3 bad sectors each but that's normal...
It's all luck IMHO

How long after you bought them did WD fail. Mine two weeks. Malik no comment, you must be the golden boy.

I once got a Maxtor ~2 gig that failed right away. The replacement failed right away, and although the second replacement was a different model I didn't trust them anymore. No more Maxtor.

I had two of the WD BB series drives - both of them failed within a year. No more WD.

In the meantime I have a fleet of ST340016A (40-gig, made in Singapore) drives that are still going after 7-8 years. I am STILL using those and have taken to using multiple drives to get more capacity. I had a newer 80-gig Seagate (made in China) that stared making chirping noises and was failing. I am sticking with my ST340016As for now. 😁

@Dogan: they lasted from 3 weeks to a month...

the early 7200.12 had problems, but not quite as much as the 7200.11... you just needed to update the firmware which fixes many of the problems
seagate now regularly issues updates for these drives and you really need to update the drives... mine worked better after I did that! the "don't fix it till it broken" mentality doesn't really apply here

If I get any new drives I'm actually thinking of trying Western Digital again (help)

just don't get the caviar green drives... they have all sorts of issues

green drives are dumb i only bought one because it was cheap. HDDs don't pull that much power any ways. i think i might buy a raid card and get some real drives

I'm thinking about buying new motherboard, CPU and RAM, and I wanted to put 2 hard disks in RAID 1 (using the motherboard, good RAID card seems to be expensive). What series of hard disks do you recommend? I've read that WD Caviar are not recommended for RAID devices (specially Green Caviar).

Also, do you know any good RAID card not too expensive?

None! from what i can tell raid 1, via mother board makes no performance boost and if the bios battery goes dead or you loose power you will have to rebuild the raid witch takes time or worst case scenario witch i had happen you loose the raid.

if any thing get a Velociraptor.