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I've just downloaded ElementuaryOS for the first time and it comes with Epiphany browser. I want to know more information. I am unfamiliar with Epiphany because I use Firefox. I value my privacy and I believe Firefox cares about that, what about Epiphany? Please give me an honest answer describing this and how Epiphany compares to Firefox as a whole.

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Reply 6 of 21, by computergeek92

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Jorpho wrote:

According to Wikipedia, it's actually based on "WebkitGTK+" now – so closer to Safari than Firefox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_(web_browser)

Thats a dead page. Nothing's there you know...

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Reply 7 of 21, by computergeek92

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i think its a gpl-ed firefox minus any progress from the last few years; also firefox loves your privacy and hence wants to share that with everyone(web browses you);

Firefox has Search Incognito, so I thought it would respect your privacy. Yes? No?

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Reply 8 of 21, by computergeek92

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computergeek92 wrote:

because I use Firefox. I value my privacy and I believe Firefox cares about that

OK 😵

Guess I got to search for a better browser now..

Last edited by computergeek92 on 2016-10-07, 10:21. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 9 of 21, by computergeek92

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Jorpho wrote:

If you need such a detailed response, shouldn't you seek out, y'know, an Epiphany (or an ElementaryOS) web forum?

Thought I'd test my luck by asking you guys too.😀 Elementary OS forum gave me one response but it does not answer all of my questions.

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web/FrequentlyAsk … lla_and_Firefox

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Reply 10 of 21, by beastlike

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Nor sure what kind of privacy you're looking for,

Private browsing in Firefox or chrome just kinda doesn't save history or cached images, (private from mom)

A step up is a hosts file (or in Linux, ip tables) and some chrome plug-ins like ghostery, adblock plus. Add tamper-monkey for those annoying sites like Forbes which don't like adblockers. This is closer to privacy on the Internet. This is what I use 99% of the time. Trackers and ad companies are creepy.

Then there's the Tor browser for even better privacy from the Internet, although nothing is ever 100% private or safe on the Internet. Maybe in some cases (like the known cases that tor's been compromised) that's a good thing.

Happy browsing!

Reply 11 of 21, by computergeek92

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Privacy as in being immune to Google spying/tracking and the like. AKA anonymous web browsing.

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Reply 12 of 21, by Anonymous Freak

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Well, any web browser in private mode, with a Google tracking blocker, will block Google's tracking. AdBlock and Ghostery plugins are available for most every browser, and the pair will stop almost every tracker out there.

There is no such thing as TRULY anonymous web browsing, though. Even TorBrowser has vulnerabilities that can 'leak' your info. Opera has the benefit of built-in VPN IP-hiding in its private mode, though. For the simplest "pretty good privacy" (no relation to the actual PGP) Opera's probably the easiest/most private. But any browser can be made more private with tweaks.

Also, for maximum privacy, don't log in to any website, ever. Don't participate in any web forums. Don't post a comment on anything. Switch web browsers constantly, switch OSes and CPUs too, if you can. Only browse from someone else's (secure) WiFi, not from your own house/work/school, use a VPN/Tor/etc. Reformat your computers regularly.

Or, for maximum internet privacy - stay off the internet.

Really, it's a matter of deciding what level of privacy-to-convenience tradeoff you're willing to make.

Reply 13 of 21, by beastlike

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I really like using a hosts file, because it fundamentally blocks all connections to the known creepy trackers. There are lists that are updated weekly, with thousands and thousands of known addresses.
I like seeing ghostery report 0 trackers, knowing that the hosts file prevented the connection in the first place. The hubris of companies that put content out on the free and open Internet and then have the gall to block it if you block their trackers is sickening. Luckily tamper monkey fixes some of those stupid sites pretty easily.

Even with all of that, the site you're on still logs your ip, so you're not really private from the sites you visit, but I'm not incredibly concerned.. most ad tracking works with an image or other object that's just hosted on the tracker's website. It would kinda be complicated to do it in such a way that logs are shipped from the good websites to the bad ones. The trackers have a lot more control if you make a connection direcly to them. Blocking the creep domains are typically good enough to block 99%+ of tracking.

Reply 14 of 21, by Jade Falcon

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computergeek92 wrote:
mrau wrote:

i think its a gpl-ed firefox minus any progress from the last few years; also firefox loves your privacy and hence wants to share that with everyone(web browses you);

Firefox has Search Incognito, so I thought it would respect your privacy. Yes? No?

That just tosses everything into you pagefile or swap space. Where it stays for how knows how long.

Reply 16 of 21, by Jorpho

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computergeek92 wrote:
Jorpho wrote:

Thats a dead page. Nothing's there you know...

😒 The auto URL converter removes trailing parentheses. If you copy and paste the URL it works fine. Or just click here.

computergeek92 wrote:

Privacy as in being immune to Google spying/tracking and the like. AKA anonymous web browsing.

No one at Google is ever going to care what you, specifically, are doing.

Reply 17 of 21, by Jade Falcon

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beastlike wrote:

Also, it's nice of firefox to respect your privacy, but when firefox is one out of 10,000 entities that sees your web traffic in a given day, what good does that really do?

This, read anything before clicking agree when you value you privacy.
And if you do value your privacy you should not be on the internet.

Reply 18 of 21, by xjas

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beastlike wrote:

I really like using a hosts file, because it fundamentally blocks all connections to the known creepy trackers. There are lists that are updated weekly, with thousands and thousands of known addresses.
I like seeing ghostery report 0 trackers, knowing that the hosts file prevented the connection in the first place. The hubris of companies that put content out on the free and open Internet and then have the gall to block it if you block their trackers is sickening. Luckily tamper monkey fixes some of those stupid sites pretty easily.

You have a recommendation of a good Hosts file? I used to use a hybrid of two different ones and keep it updated myself every couple months, but that was a pain to do across multiple machines. Lately some ads (on youtube especially) have started slipping through. Wouldn't mind to start fresh.

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