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Re: Interview with composer Henri Chalifour, what would you like to ask?

Postby noop » 2018-4-11 @ 15:48

Hey, how's the interview project going?


One minor correction:
Scali wrote:I mean, even the legendary SID chip used by the Commodore 64 wasn't actually developed specifically for that machine. It was a cut-down version of a synthesizer design that originally had 32 voices. The limited technology would only allow 3 voices in a single chip at the time (and some other features of the design also had to be dropped). So the designer, Bob Yannes, thought you should just use multiple SID chips to build the full synthesizer.

Bob did not finish the design of the chip he wanted, which would do time-multiplexing of all 32 digital channels in one oscillator circuit and instead slapped 3 copies of that incomplete circuit without ability to use digital samples as a source, only getting 3 voices. Originally planned chip would not take more space, it just was too hard for him to finish within given time frame, so he basically salvaged incomplete parts of it into what we now know as SiD.
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Re: Interview with composer Henri Chalifour, what would you like to ask?

Postby Beegle » 2018-6-15 @ 04:00

noop wrote:Hey, how's the interview project going?

It's moving forward indeed.
Last time I posted last Fall, I had started cutting things (hesitations, silences, repetitions) and reorganizing based on subjects discussed.
There are 100+ of these little "groups" now, ranging from 45 seconds to 3 minutes each.
I've got about 25% left to go. For now. That is painstakingly long, but it's the step with the most minutiae, which is a good thing.

In other news, I have found Mike_Rosoft talking about Adlib Multimedia, in an old newspaper. Still no answers through email though.

Other interesting info :
- Henri mentions Moog synths a few times. I'm in talks with Moog for visual material to include in the film.
- Korg instruments are mentioned as well. I've got the green light from Korg to show relevant machines as the interviewees explain working with them.
- A notable and well-known synth composer is mentioned, and declined to be even referenced in the film. So that part will be cut.
- I'm in talks with new people to interview as there are a few missing pieces, especially regarding the time "before" AdLib
- Found a few approachable people to talk about other aspects of AdLib, AdLib Multimedia, Mediatrix, but haven't contacted them yet.
- Found audio recordings from 1991-1993 at the National Assembly, that talk about the government accepting, then declining, to back AdLib near the end
- In talks with the City of Quebec for archival images from the 80s.
- In talks with the McCord museum, they have a document shown in the film in relation to AdLib
- Researching the national library for newspaper articles mentioning AdLib, in progress
- In contact with 3 television channels regarding video footage, news segments, etc. Got 1 answer for now.

So basically the editing is going strong (16+ hours per week) and research is accelerating (8+ hours per week)
Not much else to say apart from that. But the near-completion of the current step in Sony Vegas is giving me hope for the future : this is probably the toughest milestone of the project, and I'm slowly getting there. So yay!
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Re: Interview with composer Henri Chalifour, what would you like to ask?

Postby noop » 2018-6-15 @ 22:56

Great progress!! Keep it up!

Beegle wrote:- A notable and well-known synth composer is mentioned, and declined to be even referenced in the film. So that part will be cut.

Does he have a right to demand that?
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Re: Interview with composer Henri Chalifour, what would you like to ask?

Postby Beegle » 2018-6-16 @ 07:56

noop wrote:
Beegle wrote:- A notable and well-known synth composer is mentioned, and declined to be even referenced in the film. So that part will be cut.
Does he have a right to demand that?

Legally speaking, no. In a documentary that has an educational/informative purpose (atleast in the US and Canada) I can mention and describe pretty much anything.

But my personal courtesy is to ask people their permission on top of that for
- being mentioned by interviewees
- being shown, as they are mentioned (archive footage, images, etc.)

But anyway, for that specific part, the mention was tangential and not very important to the main idea anyway, so it's not a huge loss in terms of information.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Scali » 2018-6-16 @ 08:19

Is that 'notable and well-known' in the world of computers/game music, or as in mainstream music industry (thinking of Vangelis, Jean-Michel Jarre, Harold Faltermeyer and that sort of artist)?
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Beegle » 2018-6-16 @ 18:04

Scali wrote:Is that 'notable and well-known' in the world of computers/game music, or as in mainstream music industry (thinking of Vangelis, Jean-Michel Jarre, Harold Faltermeyer and that sort of artist)?

Not computer/game music, and I would say less mainstream than Jarre and Vangelis.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Great Hierophant » 2018-6-17 @ 22:07

It sounds like

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Put 'em in the footnotes/director's commentary :-P
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Beegle » 2018-6-19 @ 18:32

Great Hierophant wrote:It sounds like [someone's has a skeleton in the closet] Put 'em in the footnotes/director's commentary :-P

LOL
Given how insulted/snooty their rep's answer felt, it's tempting but we'll see. For now I've got bigger fish to fry.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Beegle » 2018-6-22 @ 03:05

By the way, I never got to uploading this :
Prototype AdLib. There's quite a few changes between this, and the official 1987 release. Enjoy!
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P.S. It's not mine ;)
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Scali » 2018-6-22 @ 09:06

Interesting prototype!
That hole in the PCB is intriguing. It seems there was something glued on there at some point. Also, it appears that just above it, there are two connections, which appear to trace down to the output.
So to me it looks like there may have been an onboard speaker installed in that hole at some point.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby root42 » 2018-6-22 @ 09:35

Scali wrote:Interesting prototype!
That hole in the PCB is intriguing. It seems there was something glued on there at some point. Also, it appears that just above it, there are two connections, which appear to trace down to the output.
So to me it looks like there may have been an onboard speaker installed in that hole at some point.


Which is supported by the fact that the traces lead to the headphone jack.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby 640K!enough » 2018-6-22 @ 18:32

Beegle wrote:
Great Hierophant wrote:It sounds like [someone's has a skeleton in the closet] Put 'em in the footnotes/director's commentary :-P

LOL
Given how insulted/snooty their rep's answer felt, it's tempting but we'll see. For now I've got bigger fish to fry.

If that's their attitude, it seems more appropriate to let them rot in obscurity, rather than give them the benefit of free advertising.

Beegle wrote:By the way, I never got to uploading this :
Prototype AdLib. There's quite a few changes between this, and the official 1987 release. Enjoy!

That is an interesting prototype. I'm glad they did away with the on-board speaker (if that's really what it was). In addition to the atrocious, muffled sound that is likely to have offered, some older desktop designs placed the hard disk quite close to the slots; that could have been bad news. Keep that away from your expensive Hardcard!
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Beegle » 2018-7-13 @ 16:34

As the AdLib documentary project is nearing 300GB+ in size, I'd like to have your input on backup solutions/methodology. Any ideas?

Currently my workflow is as follows :
- I have an external SSD drive onto which I edit the documentary, by inserting it in a slide-in drive bay on the PC (and removing after)
- When I'm done editing for the day, I save the project, and email myself the latest Vegas project file (I save incrementally)
- Every few days I backup the project files on internal HDDs in the PC (in RAID 0)
- Every few weeks I do a full backup of the project on a NAS located in my house
- I have an external HDD at work with a copy of the source files (videos, audio) since these don't change

My questions :
- Are there methods of creating a batch file that would do the RAID backup + NAS backup + send the email with one click?
- Do you think of something better that would facilitate my life, and make the project safer in case of fire/theft/data corruption/other?
- Is there something obvious that I should be doing differently?
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby Beegle » 2018-7-13 @ 16:36

Scali wrote:So to me it looks like there may have been an onboard speaker installed in that hole at some point.

640K!enough wrote:I'm glad they did away with the on-board speaker (if that's really what it was).

I can confirm that there was indeed a speaker at some point, as mentioned in the interview when Vincent describes the steps needed to design the card from scratch.
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Re: Interview with AdLib employees! [done on 17/12/2016] - currenty being Edited

Postby MobyGamer » 2018-7-14 @ 19:40

Beegle wrote:- Do you think of something better that would facilitate my life, and make the project safer in case of fire/theft/data corruption/other?


It would be much easier instead to simply invest in cloud blackup. BackBlaze has an "unlimited storage, unlimited bandwidth" plan that you could easily use on just your editing system and tell BackBlaze to just "back up everything". After about a weekend of uploading, it will then upload any files that change. Since your assets are under 1TB, this is feasible, and your source assets haven't changed in two years so they won't need to be uploaded constantly, only your project and intermediate files.

(Note that I recommend the above in addition to you performing your own off-site backups. Do not use only backblaze as your backup solution.)

I've been editing digital video on PCs since the early 1990s (not a typo) so if you would like specific advice on how to finish this longform project, feel free to send me a PM or email me.
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