Can't you use ffmpeg on Linux, Mac or Windows to convert into AVI with the Cinepak codec? That should be playable on Windows using Video for Windows runtime.

Ask and you shall receive. http://www.mediafire.com/file/035u9xi66kc997a … trmoov.zip/file

root42 wrote:

Can't you use ffmpeg on Linux, Mac or Windows to convert into AVI with the Cinepak codec? That should be playable on Windows using Video for Windows runtime.

Because I have like 2 hour movies that may go up above the Windows 3.1 hard disk limit.

DOSfan1994 wrote:

root42 wrote:

Can't you use ffmpeg on Linux, Mac or Windows to convert into AVI with the Cinepak codec? That should be playable on Windows using Video for Windows runtime.

Because I have like 2 hour movies that may go up above the Windows 3.1 hard disk limit.

Hm, ok. And how does QuickTime help in this case?

root42 wrote:

DOSfan1994 wrote:

root42 wrote:

Can't you use ffmpeg on Linux, Mac or Windows to convert into AVI with the Cinepak codec? That should be playable on Windows using Video for Windows runtime.

Because I have like 2 hour movies that may go up above the Windows 3.1 hard disk limit.

Hm, ok. And how does QuickTime help in this case?

Well I tried the winsurf avi file to a .mov file and it didn’t work. It showed me a blank screen.

Although you did gave me suggestion for a last resort. But let me ask you this. Can ffmpeg convert a 2 hour and

34 min movie avi file with the cinepak codec lower than 2 or 1 gb of disk space? Just asking, because I tried it on

other converters and video editors such as virtualdub and current versions of Sony Vegas on Windows 10. And they

still went over the 1 gig disk space limit. Like I don’t know how and old video codec would do that.

Older codecs usually don't compress as much as modern ones. Probably your problemas lies in the codec, not in the tool (not to mention some other tiny details like resolution, sound bitrate... Windows 3.1 vídeos had sub-VGA resolución and sounded like a radio hidden on a can).

Zup wrote:

Older codecs usually don't compress as much as modern ones. Probably your problemas lies in the codec, not in the tool (not to mention some other tiny details like resolution, sound bitrate... Windows 3.1 vídeos had sub-VGA resolución and sounded like a radio hidden on a can).

Have you tried ffmpeg before? And is there a way to size down a 2hr and 34 min movie file size with a cinepak codec?

From wikipedia:

Cinepak is a lossy video codec[1] developed by Peter Barrett at SuperMac Technologies, and released in 1991 with the Video Spigot, and then in 1992 as part of Apple Computer's QuickTime video suite. One of the first video compression tools to achieve full motion video on CD-ROM,[2] it was designed to encode 320×240 resolution video at 1× (150 kbyte/s) CD-ROM transfer rates.

So 2h34min at 150 kbyte/s is almost 1.3Gb. It cinepak is (at it seems) a fixed bitrate codec, there is no way to put your movie below 1Gb. It won't matter if you use ffmpeg, virtualdub, TRMOOV.EXE or the official encoding tools. To achieve 2h34min below 1Gb, you'll need a codec that can encode your video below 113 kbyte/s. Also, as I said before, more resolution means more size (for a given codec) but it seems that your tools already resize the video to fit in 320x240.

This can be easily done with any mpeg4 encoder, but you won't find any Windows 3.1 player that supports mpeg4 and no machine from that era will have enough CPU power to decode it.

I guess Intel Indeo will probably work in Windows 3.1, but I don't know which bitrates can you achieve with it. MPEG1 is aimed to put VHS videos into CDs (about 1hr/disc), but can be forced to use lower resolutions and bitrates... and some fast machines form that era (Pentium, but that's Windows 95 era) may decode it without additional hardware. MPEG2 and MPEG4 (that including DivX, Xvid and "proper" mp4 codecs) will need CPUs that nobody used with Windows 3.1.

There is always the option to split a long video to smaller parts... ffmpeg can do this for you as well. When I get some time, I will try to write up the command line to do this. Maybe tonight...

root42 wrote:

There is always the option to split a long video to smaller parts... ffmpeg can do this for you as well. When I get some time, I will try to write up the command line to do this. Maybe tonight...

And maybe use a video editor on Windows 3.1 to put those parts back together?