ZellSF wrote:There is a reason to stick to native resolution, but there is no reason to stick to other common resolutions is what I meant. […]
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BeginnerGuy wrote:ZellSF wrote:
Not a typo. There's no reason to stick to common resolutions on LCDs.
Why is that? I prefer native 1440 over interpolated 1800P,
There is a reason to stick to native resolution, but there is no reason to stick to other common resolutions is what I meant.
At any rate a 1800p image scaled to 2160p still has more detail than a native 1440p image. Not saying you're wrong in preferring a lower resolution image of course.
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What does it have to do with AAA titles?
You can't play the latest AAA titles at 4K, which is why people are saying 4K is stupid, but there's more to games than that as you mention. Older games or indie titles where you can easily play in 4K. Yes I'll admit I lost the thread of the conversation here, we might have been replying to different things.
BeginnerGuy wrote:I perceive the difference, which goes right back to why I said YMMV. I can see it, many others can see it. Also, if the resolution of the monitor and the textures were high enough, why would you need interpolated scaling? The point of the highest resolutions is to make aliasing imperceptible, is it not?
If your hardware isn't good enough or your software doesn't support the higher resolution. Once you're not going for native resolution then what's important is going as high resolution as you can while not sacrificing anything else.
I'm hoping you're not understanding what you're replying to here though, are you saying you could see the difference between a interpolated 1080p>2160p scale and an interpolated 1200p>2160p scale and think the 1080p>2160 scale will be cleaner because of a better scaling ratio? I don't believe you (as for the many others, it's the first time I've heard anyone claim this and I really like discussions like this).
Only reason to stick to perfect scaling ratios is for integer scaling (which is not what I'm talking about above). Which is nice when you have pixel art based games and awful when you have low-res (1080p) 3D rendered games.
Hmm no, you'll have to forgive me as my head is buried in a thick fog of flu medicine.. It seems we agree on pretty much everything and somehow I had it backwards.
- I always argue that when 4k + 60FPS(and higher) is affordable and viable, all arguments against 4k will vanish. So yep, I agree with you about AAA titles, it's a beautiful resolution to play at once you remove cost (and refresh rates which will come soon enough). In fact, what I was saying to OP originally was that even at 27" I would look forward to resolutions above 4k, possibly even as high as 8k *may* be noticeable to me.
As for the scaling I think I had even mentioned before that on many of the 4k monitors I've seen, even 1080P scales up poorly WITH pixel art because it's not doing the integer scaling it could be doing 4:1, there still seems to be interpolation happening. On my LG, the moment you tap the resolution to anything under 3840x2160, there is an immediate and extremely noticeable loss in clarity that worsens the further you drop, I'm not sure of the proper term for it, it's almost like when I'm at the eye doctor and they flick one lens too far on the phoropter and everything goes from sharp back to a blurry. 1080P doesn't look like native 1080P to me though in theory it could.
What I was trying to say is that native looks better to me on any monitor. I have right in this house a 1080P 144hz monitor, 1440P 60hz (IPS type), 4k 60hz (IPS), all 27". My 1080P monitor is ugly in general (older TN high refresh) so I'll leave that out. At 1440p, side by side with a 4k monitor, the 1440 native monitor looks far sharper to me, the difference is significant.
Maybe where you don't believe me (and it could just be placebo) is that I will generally choose the 1440p native monitor over 1800P on my 4k monitor. Admittedly there could be variables to that because I'm able to use AA and higher texture quality and lighting at that resolution, though I do have it in my head that it just plain looks better. I'm quite convinced it does, but maybe a higher end 4k monitor would scale better - I have a "budget" LG 27UD58P, the cheapest 4k IPS I could find by far.
Sup. I like computers. Are you a computer?