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Hi, I have been trying to find a picture of a tv my parents owned back in the 80s. It was a tv made my Philips and they bought it when moving from The Netherlands to the United States in 1984. Apparently it was suited for use in both countries as it was used for several more years after moving back to The Netherlands.

For the most part it was one of your typical bulky CRTs with a wooden (or at least it looked like wood) cabinets but funnily enough it is very hard to find an exact match among the many photos of old tvs online. The closest match is this one:

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The front panel with the buttons is except for the colors pretty much as I remember, but the cabinet appears to have a metallic finish and the speaker looks different. The tv I am talking about had a single round speaker in the lower right corner. While it was bought in 1984, it could be a model that was designed in the late 70s.

Anyone recognize the model in this photo and know of similar tv sets?

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Reply 2 of 42, by 386SX

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I don't know that model but very similar to the TV we had since the 1984 to 1998 a Blaupunkt model with same kind of CRT white tube, same LCD display, probably same TV tech generations. Those were the times things could be repaired and mantained for years without the needs of changing everything every years sometimes just cause a capacitor failed.

Reply 3 of 42, by brostenen

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Peter Swinkels wrote:
Hi, I have been trying to find a picture of a tv my parents owned back in the 80s. It was a tv made my Philips and they bought i […]
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Hi, I have been trying to find a picture of a tv my parents owned back in the 80s. It was a tv made my Philips and they bought it when moving from The Netherlands to the United States in 1984. Apparently it was suited for use in both countries as it was used for several more years after moving back to The Netherlands.

For the most part it was your typical bulky CRTs with a wooden (or at least it looked like wood) cabinets but funnily enough it is very hard to find an exact match among the many photos of old tvs online. The closest match is this one:

B4D8E23D-BDE8-4C11-B2F3-8BFC2A5C4B74.png

The front panel with the buttons is except for the colors pretty much as I remember, but the cabinet appears to have a metallic finish and the speaker looks different. The tv I am talking about had a single round speaker in the lower right corner. While it was bought in 1984, it could be a model that was designed in the late 70s.

Anyone recognize the model in this photo and know of similar tv sets?

Was the channel selector a turn knob of some sort?

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Reply 4 of 42, by JidaiGeki

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This site has a few pages of old TV pics:

http://www.oldtechnology.net/oldtv.html

It also makes reference to a Philips museum in Eindhoven:

https://www.philips.nl/en/a-w/philips-museum.html

Looks like it could be worth a visit!

Reply 5 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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65C02 wrote:

My parents had a Hitachi TV that looked that! I clearly remember that digital tuner with the LED channel indicator. Maybe Hitachi made TVs for other brands like Phillips (or vice versa?)

Nope they did not in the period of this topic.

Reply 6 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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Here are some old Philips leaflets: https://www.mfbfreaks.com/documentatie/hifi-f … lips-nederland/ Maybe yours is in there? Also check out http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/ The picture that you have posted is definitely from an 80's Philips tv (1980-1984 or so I guess). The low end Philips tv's had the same chassis but were equipped with various options, depending on the model. A digital tuner and remote control were not offered with all models. Philips quit producing tv's with a veneer wood finish in '84/5, because silver grey and black became the new trend 😀

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Reply 7 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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brostenen wrote:
Peter Swinkels wrote:
Hi, I have been trying to find a picture of a tv my parents owned back in the 80s. It was a tv made my Philips and they bought i […]
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Hi, I have been trying to find a picture of a tv my parents owned back in the 80s. It was a tv made my Philips and they bought it when moving from The Netherlands to the United States in 1984. Apparently it was suited for use in both countries as it was used for several more years after moving back to The Netherlands.

For the most part it was your typical bulky CRTs with a wooden (or at least it looked like wood) cabinets but funnily enough it is very hard to find an exact match among the many photos of old tvs online. The closest match is this one:

B4D8E23D-BDE8-4C11-B2F3-8BFC2A5C4B74.png

The front panel with the buttons is except for the colors pretty much as I remember, but the cabinet appears to have a metallic finish and the speaker looks different. The tv I am talking about had a single round speaker in the lower right corner. While it was bought in 1984, it could be a model that was designed in the late 70s.

Anyone recognize the model in this photo and know of similar tv sets?

Was the channel selector a turn knob of some sort?

Philips did not use turn knobs for tuning or channel selection on 1980's tv's, apart from on a few b&w portable models.

Reply 8 of 42, by Peter Swinkels

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My, what a lot replies. Nope, it doesn't appear in any one of the pictures linked to. The channel display and the buttons in the original picture posted by me are identical to the ones on the tv I am looking for. The tv in question has no speaker or controls on its left side and I forgot to mention that while it indeed didn't have turn knobs there was tray (the size of a large box of matches) behind a plastic panel with a silver grey metallic finish which you could take off by pulling. After that you had to nudge the tray to be able to pull it out until it nearly was out of the tv. There were a dozen or so tiny plastic wheels lined up vertically and tiny selector switches. These were used to program the frequencies for each channel. Tuning it must have been a real pain. 😀 The tv also came with a boxy silver gray remote which had a lot of very narrow hard buttons aligned horizontally. Its housing started to fall apart after a while. It wasn't very sturdy.

Oh, and as to reliability, it lasted from 1984 to 1996 or so. We got rid of it after it started doing weird things such suddenly turning the volume to maximum. It probably could have been fixed but by that time a similar but more modern tv apparently was the easier (better?) choice.

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Reply 9 of 42, by imi

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I can't find one exactly the way you're describing, but the drawer with the knobs can be found on earlier models:
http://www.hifi-archiv.info/Philips/1976-TV2/06.jpg
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_goya_662_k9i.html

while a button layout similar to the first picture is found on later models, though those don't seem to have that drawer anymore but just knobs behind a folding panel.
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_goya_au … cp2313_02z.html

also different remotes

Reply 10 of 42, by Peter Swinkels

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The drawer displayed in those images is very similar to the one I described. Also, while the majority of those old tvs have a square or rectangular speaker grille, the one I am talking about had a round grille.

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Reply 12 of 42, by Peter Swinkels

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Yeah, and the button layout in the photo appears to be rare. I’d almost start to believe my memory is playing tricks on me.

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Reply 13 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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imi wrote:
I can't find one exactly the way you're describing, but the drawer with the knobs can be found on earlier models: http://www.hif […]
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I can't find one exactly the way you're describing, but the drawer with the knobs can be found on earlier models:
http://www.hifi-archiv.info/Philips/1976-TV2/06.jpg
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_goya_662_k9i.html

while a button layout similar to the first picture is found on later models, though those don't seem to have that drawer anymore but just knobs behind a folding panel.
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_goya_au … cp2313_02z.html

also different remotes

As you can see those tv's are from the late 70's (btw those are some hard to find sets these days!). TS is looking for an 80's model.

Reply 14 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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Peter Swinkels wrote:

The channel display and the buttons in the original picture posted by me are identical to the ones on the tv I am looking for. The tv in question has no speaker or controls on its left side and I forgot to mention that while it indeed didn't have turn knobs there was tray (the size of a large box of matches) behind a plastic panel with a silver grey metallic finish which you could take off by pulling. After that you had to nudge the tray to be able to pull it out until it nearly was out of the tv. There were a dozen or so tiny plastic wheels lined up vertically and tiny selector switches. These were used to program the frequencies for each channel. Tuning it must have been a real pain. 😀

Only tv's without a fully digital tuner had those tuning wheels. They are crap, especially after 30+ years because the springs in them wear out 😊 By the way: looking more closely to your picture, the tv on it does not seem to have a digital tuner, but (obviously) it does have a channel memory with 'tip' buttons.

The tv also came with a boxy silver gray remote which had a lot of very narrow hard buttons aligned horizontally. Its housing started to fall apart after a while. It wasn't very sturdy.

I have that remote. It came with Philips and Aristona models.

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Reply 15 of 42, by imi

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Peter Swinkels wrote:

it could be a model that was designed in the late 70s.

😉

also I was specifically looking for that tray with knobs and button layout, and I don't think later models had the drawer anymore.

Reply 16 of 42, by Peter Swinkels

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SpectriaForce wrote:
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Peter Swinkels wrote:

The channel display and the buttons in the original picture posted by me are identical to the ones on the tv I am looking for. The tv in question has no speaker or controls on its left side and I forgot to mention that while it indeed didn't have turn knobs there was tray (the size of a large box of matches) behind a plastic panel with a silver grey metallic finish which you could take off by pulling. After that you had to nudge the tray to be able to pull it out until it nearly was out of the tv. There were a dozen or so tiny plastic wheels lined up vertically and tiny selector switches. These were used to program the frequencies for each channel. Tuning it must have been a real pain. 😀

Only tv's without a fully digital tuner had those tuning wheels. They are crap, especially after 30+ years because the springs in them wear out 😊 By the way: looking more closely to your picture, the tv on it does not seem to have a digital tuner, but (obviously) it does have a channel memory with 'tip' buttons.

The tv also came with a boxy silver gray remote which had a lot of very narrow hard buttons aligned horizontally. Its housing started to fall apart after a while. It wasn't very sturdy.

I have that remote. It came with Philips and Aristona models.

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That remote looks somewhat like what I meant. Ours was even fatter and had more buttons. Also, I believe the channel numbers were printed on the top casing, not the buttons. Not sure if this useful, but with our tv channels 11 and 12 served the dual purpose of allowing an external device such as a VCR or gaming console to supply video and audio input. I also remember the signal quality for other channels degrading if one of those external devices was turned on. Today that would be unacceptable. The tv had no way of dealing with a lack of signal either, you'd get your typical "snowy" screen and a loud hissing noise.

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And, the tv would happily provide you with static shocks after being turned on for a while if you touched the screen or controls. 😀

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Reply 17 of 42, by SpectriaForce

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Are you sure it's not this one: http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/Philips%2020C9 … 01980%2001.html This one has the tuner drawer. I have owned this one, but mine had a weak CRT.

Or what about this one: https://obsoletetellyemuseum.blogspot.com/201 … r-1980.html?m=1

Unfortunately I can't find many pictures of 1979-1982 Philips tv's, but I am pretty sure that it's from that period. Maybe if you search on Philips KT-3 (chassis) you find it. Still, it doesn't make a lot of sense if you say that it was bought in 1984.

Reply 19 of 42, by Peter Swinkels

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SpectriaForce wrote:

Are you sure it's not this one: http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/Philips%2020C9 … 01980%2001.html This one has the tuner drawer. I have owned this one, but mine had a weak CRT.

Or what about this one: https://obsoletetellyemuseum.blogspot.com/201 … r-1980.html?m=1

Unfortunately I can't find many pictures of 1979-1982 Philips tv's, but I am pretty sure that it's from that period. Maybe if you search on Philips KT-3 (chassis) you find it. Still, it doesn't make a lot of sense if you say that it was bought in 1984.

I am positive the model being displayed http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/pictures/Phili … 201980%2001.jpg is a variant of the model I am talking about. That one is a very close match.

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