cursor up key?

retro games 100 wrote:

cursor up key?

nope, I pressed all poossible keys...it must be a combination of two keys

I bet a guy from Malaysia here knows it 😉

SHIFT +
SHIFT -

from the docs listed on Lemon Amiga.

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=758

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SHIFT +
SHIFT -

from the docs listed on Lemon Amiga.

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=758

Tried it, doesn't work

I already tried the Amiga controls as I wrote earlier

I think its -/+ on the top row of the keyboard (as opposed to the numpad)

Davros wrote:

I think its -/+ on the top row of the keyboard (as opposed to the numpad)

Doesn't work

Here's from my Gunship 2000 Tech. Supplement:

Flight Controls

1Action                           Keyboard
2Cyclic Forward                   Up Arrow
3Cyclic Back                      Down Arrow
4Cyclic Left                      Left Arrow
5Cyclic Left                      Right Arrow
6Collective Up                    =
7Collective Up Fast               Shift and =
8Collective Down                  -
9Collective Down                  Shift and -
10Tail Rotor Left                  none or Left Arrow
11Tail Rotor Left                  none or Right Arrow
12Gear Up/Down                     3
13Autopilot OnOff                  5
14Next Waypoint                    6
15Prev Waypoint                    7
16Bay Open/Close                   8
17Rotor Engage/Disengage           9
18Auto-Hover                       0
19Change One of Left MFD           z
20Change Right MFD                 x
21Low Limit -                      c
22Low Limit +                      v

So yes, it is the - and = keys on top of the keyboard. By the way, have you engaged the rotor before raising the collective? Because if you press = wthout engaging the rotor first, then you'll only increase the engine throttle without actually increasing the collective at all (the engine sound will raise, but your chopper stays on the ground).

Sorry for the necro guys, but I am having exactly the same problem... Everything seems to work fine, menus, other controls both in flight and in game menus but no matter what if I engage the rotor (9) the rotor light turns green but the collective controls are irresponsive. Any idea, amigaz did you solve the problem back then?

Thanks in advance!

Are you using english keyboard? I remember that old PC games from Microprose only respond to some keys when using english keyboard (i.e.: F-19 Stealth Fighter).

In pure DOS, you could boot without loading keyboard (no KEYB line in AUTOEXEC.BAT) or pressing some combination of keys (i don't remember if it was CTRL+F1, CTRL+ALT+F1 or CTRL+SHIFT+F1). In DOSBox some of that keys are taken by keyboard mapper, so your only option is NOT to use a KEYB command.

Thanks for your answer Zup.

I am a bit of a noob with DOSBox but I think I have no keyb command in the setting, the keyboard I am using is a spanish one and the game does not work in the two computers I already tried. The weird thing is that every other single control in the game works perfectly, both in the game and menus (somo missions start with the chopper already in flight and I can dive-climb-fire-use the map- everything but use the collective controls).

In DOS flight sims you pretty much HAVE to use US settings for keyboards if you want things like throttle etc. to work right. In DOS you need to use KEYB US command, but I don't know how it would work in DOSBOX?

Geleterojo wrote:

Thanks for your answer Zup.

I am a bit of a noob with DOSBox but I think I have no keyb command in the setting, the keyboard I am using is a spanish one and the game does not work in the two computers I already tried. The weird thing is that every other single control in the game works perfectly, both in the game and menus (somo missions start with the chopper already in flight and I can dive-climb-fire-use the map- everything but use the collective controls).

- Check that you really don't have that command on your AUTOEXEC.BAT (on a real PC) or in the [autoexec] section in dosbox.conf. If you use DOSBox, look in Windows Start Menu > DosBox > DosBox Options. The [autoexec] section are the last lines on that file.
- Also, you can try to switch keyboard layout before playing, typing KEYB US.
- Start your helicopter, then press 9 (to engage rotors). The red light on the torque gauge will change to green.
- After that, use the two keys between the 0 key and the backspace key to control the collective input.

Keep in mind that probably all the docs for Microprose simulators are written for english people, so the symbols match their keyboards. The = symbol is not the one on the 0 key (spanish layout) but the key that is at the left of backspace. To locate all the keys, you should look at this keyboard layout.

(You'll have the same problem with F-19 Stealth Fighter, F-117 Nighthawk, and probably every simulator written by Microprose)

Thanks a lot, the problem is solved using a single command KEYB US in dos box conf file...

But then I get into a differnete and more puzzling problem. The sim now works perfectly, but every time I get in contact with the enemy AFTER receiving some damages, the keyboard stops working, not completely, since I still can use the arrows and some commands like isner or delete, but the all the other keys (map, rotor, external views, fire, changing weapons, and so on) stop working. This is very strange and happens in two different systems... any idea?

And again, thanks a lot for your time, gentlemen.

I scanned and submitted the PC version keyboard overlays to Moby Games a while back, but of course it's compressed on their website and tiny. You can request a full resolution copy there, but let me save you the trouble. Cheers!