Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

There are a few like Wing Commander and Test Drive 3. […]
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VileRancour wrote:

can you name a few games that run too fast on a 486 but fine on a 386? (serious question... always looking to learn here.)

There are a few like Wing Commander and Test Drive 3.

However turning off the Cache on the 486 (can be done through BIOS or command line tools) solves this issue. Most 486 also have a Turbo button, which gives you even more flexibility.

Hence why I wouldn't choose a 386 at all!

UNLESS it's a Vobis Highscreen 386-DX 33 desktop 🤣 That was my first ever PC...

I really didnt like that vobis computer. My dad had also this one. It came with a small / tiny motherboard with 5 ISA slots! (it lacked 3 slots, because AT standard had 8 slots) Came with an (i thought) 60 - 80MB harddisk in front cage.. Trident 512kB 16-bit worsed graphics card ever! and a Winbond I/O ISA card.. The very bad con was that the processor DX 33mhz was solderd to the motherboard!.

SavantStrike wrote:

sgt76 wrote:

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Yes!

But the challenge is finding a system that is compatible with W98 and has drivers for W98.

At least that's what I heard a few times here...

I have a couple of s478 boards from 2002 that I'm pretty sure support Win98, maybe I should give them a try.

My period correct 1999 Katmai 600mhz machine drives me up the wall when I have to surf with it!

Anything Win9X drives me up the wall when I try and surf with it as I've not found a satisfactory web browser. That aside, almost all of the S478 boards have Win98 drivers, especially if they use an Intel chipset. Some of the later boards with PCIe may not have drivers, but anything with AGP should be okay. IIRC all the way up to the 915 or 925 had Win9x drivers available from Intel, so you could even have a PCie win9x box if you find the right motherboard and pair it with a Geforce 6 series card. There are also beta drivers for the x800 series if you want to go with Ati.

hey maybe this will interest you 😉

you can run lots of stuff this way on your old boxes

PC 1:Soyo K7VTA-B
AMD Athlon XP 1250 with:
VGA:nVidia GeForce2
Sound:AC'97 onboard
LAN:3com 3c905 PCI
USB 2.0 card
Windows XP

PC 2:Soyo 6BA+III
Intel Celeron 700Mhz
VGA:3Dfx Voodoo3 2000
Sound:ESS Maestro-2
LAN:Realtek RTL8139D
Windows 98SE & 2000

PC 3: PCChips M550
Intel Pentium MMX 166 or 200 or 233
VGA:Trident 9685
3D:Monster 3D card
Sound:C-Media 8330 OnBoard
USB 1.1 ATX Form Card
LAN:Realtek RTL8139D
Windows 98SE

PC 4:PCChips M919
Cyrix 5x86-120
VGA:S3 ViRGE
Sound:Internal Speaker
LAN:Realtek RTL8139D
Windows 95B with Plus!

My own FOUR:

1.Core2Duo 8600 Geforce 9600GT Ensoniq AudioPCI
2.Pentium III 800 Riva TNT2 AWE32
3.Pentium 166MMX VirgeDX + Voodoo2 Ultrasound MAX + AWE32
4.486 DX2-66 VirgeDX + Voodoo1 Ultrasound Extreme

Tetrium wrote:

Thanks lol :P But it looks like the CPU is soldered and only the FPU *ahem :P* has a socket. […]
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sliderider wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Problem is finding a motherboard that supports 16Mhz 😵
The only board I know besides the Dell board I pulled it from is the ASUS SP3.

Here's one

http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/D/DI … 6-20-25UCE.html

Thanks 🤣 😜
But it looks like the CPU is soldered and only the FPU *ahem 😜* has a socket.

sgt76 wrote:

Looks like 486s and PIIIs get much love here. One for DOS and another for Win98/ Glide compatibility. What about if you substitute the PIII with a P4/ Athlon XP running Win98SE? Would be the same except more powerful wouldn't it?

Don't forget Super 7 😉

PIII is pretty good as it's the last main CPU before both Intel and AMD started to require a LOT more power and they have universal AGP.
I really like PIII (especially once you move into Coppermine/Tualatin territory 😀 ).

Even if it comes with a 486SX soldered to the motherboard, it doesn't matter as long as it has the 487 socket. The 487 was a full 486 anyway, it just deactivated the soldered CPU when it was present.

Oh, nice topic!

In order of preference,

1.
486 (socket 3): Cyrix 5x86c-133 (66 MHz FSB), 64 MB RAM, Matrox G200, Ultra2 SCSI, AWE64Gold, NIC

2.
P1 (socket 7): AMD K6-III+ or Cyrix MII-433, 256 MB RAM, Matrox G450, Ultra2 SCSI, Yamaha XG audio, NIC

3.
386: Cyrix 486DLC-40 w/FasMath, 32 MB RAM, 1-4 MB ISA graphics, SCSI-2, AWE64Gold (or SB16), NIC

4.
P3 (slot 1): Dual Slot 1, PIII-850+, 1 GB RAM, Nvidia FX5200 or better, Ultra160/320 SCSI, Yamaha XG audio, NIC

These are the classic retro systems of importance to me. Each contain an major era of computing history. I chose the PIII-850 over a dual Tualatin 1.4 GHz because I feel the Tualatins are still a little too new. If you let me squeeze in one more, I'd pick a classic Macintosh SE/30 with 32 MB RAM and an NIC. I used to play a game called Apache Strike on a Mac back in 1990.

The Master Compter with SKYNET OS.

Emulators for everything, MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

I would say:

1. A real DOS box - something employing a 486 or slower pentium

2. A windows 98 machine - a k6-2 or (more preferable) a pentium 3 in the 500-1000 MHz range

3. A windows XP box running an Athlon Xp

4. Something modern running Windows 7 - dual core or quad core