Hayes wasn't even much of a concern when 56k came out in ISA cards. It was either USR or Rockwell.

Fic va-503+
€415 + €22,60 (shipping) + €98 (import tax) for s7 mobo, seller claims refurbished however doesn't reply to questions about details on refurbishment. Last 2 sold were below 80 when sold.

ZEOS 386
Man, talk about false advertising - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zeos-386-Towe … ToAAOSwxj5XQS6J
$300 + $123 shipping!?!? That's not a 386, 386 does not have USB, and 386s never had an Energy Star BIOS - that's definitely a Pentium Super Socket 7 system of some kind most likely - most 386 won't go higher than 16 MB of RAM, maybe 32MB if you get a really neato old board with a lot of SIMM slots. Actually, I KNOW what kind of motherboard goes in that case, and it's this one with the 386/387 Daughter Card installed instead of the 486 daughter card.

486 Tower System
http://www.ebay.com/itm/486-DOS-Windows-3-11- … ygAAOSwLEtYi~Ei
$100, maybe, $200...that's stretching it, but almost $500 for a 486 - uhhhh, I could build one for less using parts off of e-bay from individual auctions - all with free shipping! Also, it's not a true upgradeable 486, you have a ISA backplane with a 486 SBC in it and it looks like one of the newer ones that uses a SMD SOC version of a 486 rather than the standard Socket 1/2/3 variety. Maybe it'll work for someone, but a DX-33 with that kind of setup that's not that authentic is not worth $500, sorry, unless it was something like a really rare one.

The 2nd one, he always has stuff for sale at crazy prices. I'll look at his stuff from time to time cause he usually takes care of these machines and they're usually well documented. The pictures are fun to look at.

Later 386 boards (from the gold age of AMD 386-40) are virtually ALL supported 16MB SIMMs, which means 64MB max. total is common. I clearly remember looking for options for a friend who wanted to buy a "put together 386 DX40" PC in 1993, and all the options available was advertising "64MB max. RAM" (which is actually very irrelevant since most of them sold with 4MB only). My own 386, an AMD Dx40 board supports 128MB of RAM (having 64 MB at the moment).

tayyare wrote:

Later 386 boards (from the gold age of AMD 386-40) are virtually ALL supported 16MB SIMMs, which means 64MB max. total is common. I clearly remember looking for options for a friend who wanted to buy a "put together 386 DX40" PC in 1993, and all the options available was advertising "64MB max. RAM" (which is actually very irrelevant since most of them sold with 4MB only). My own 386, an AMD Dx40 board supports 128MB of RAM (having 64 MB at the moment).

Okay, I stand corrected, actually, that's pretty cool to know that there were 386 machines that could get that much RAM, I thought that started with the 486 as the only two machines I ever owned that took that much were a 1995 IBM PC-330 100DX4 (t/C 6571-W5K), and my current 486 that has a FIC 486-PVT motherboard (which I just upgraded to 128MB of RAM yesterday).

creepingnet wrote:

ZEOS 386
Man, talk about false advertising - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zeos-386-Towe … ToAAOSwxj5XQS6J
$300 + $123 shipping!?!? That's not a 386, 386 does not have USB, and 386s never had an Energy Star BIOS - that's definitely a Pentium Super Socket 7 system of some kind most likely - most 386 won't go higher than 16 MB of RAM, maybe 32MB if you get a really neato old board with a lot of SIMM slots. Actually, I KNOW what kind of motherboard goes in that case, and it's this one with the 386/387 Daughter Card installed instead of the 486 daughter card..

From the auction: "Note that the motherboard is an AMD K6 and not the original"

I thought it's insane to ask 100 bucks for a 3.2GB hard drive but the seller has sold 5 of them at this price so I guess it's justified.

shiva2004 wrote:

creepingnet wrote:

ZEOS 386
Man, talk about false advertising - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zeos-386-Towe … ToAAOSwxj5XQS6J
$300 + $123 shipping!?!? That's not a 386, 386 does not have USB, and 386s never had an Energy Star BIOS - that's definitely a Pentium Super Socket 7 system of some kind most likely - most 386 won't go higher than 16 MB of RAM, maybe 32MB if you get a really neato old board with a lot of SIMM slots. Actually, I KNOW what kind of motherboard goes in that case, and it's this one with the 386/387 Daughter Card installed instead of the 486 daughter card..

From the auction: "Note that the motherboard is an AMD K6 and not the original"

Then why advertise as a 386? That's what most people will think when they first see the title.

I used to sell a LOT of old PC's from the 8088-Pentium era on E-bay back in the mid-late 2000's, and back then I always made sure to include the actual CPU in the title, just a matter of courtesy. Most people don't read any further than that, and if there's something more important - I'd usually mark it to READ because people are generally stupid (yes, even computer people can be) and don't read anything before bidding except the title and the price.

creepingnet wrote:

Then why advertise as a 386? That's what most people will think when they first see the title.

I used to sell a LOT of old PC's from the 8088-Pentium era on E-bay back in the mid-late 2000's, and back then I always made sure to include the actual CPU in the title, just a matter of courtesy. Most people don't read any further than that, and if there's something more important - I'd usually mark it to READ because people are generally stupid (yes, even computer people can be) and don't read anything before bidding except the title and the price.

It's even worse today. Have you looked at ebay on a android or i-device on mobile before? On the mobile version of ebay you only see the title and pictures. Mobile people -can- see the description, but it's a couple extra taps and not obvious and most mobile folks don't bother reading it. I too still think his listing is false advertisement.

creepingnet wrote:

Then why advertise as a 386? That's what most people will think when they first see the title.

Obviously it has been listed as a brand of the computer/case. Nowhere does it say it actually has a 80386 processor in it. I think it's reasonable to expect that someone might be interested in the case itself, not what's in it. The price is way off, so it clearly belongs in this thread.

IBM 4.5GB SCSI drive sold for 150 bucks.

$150 for a PC Chips motherboard (m918) of known horrific cache/RAM timings. Rude seller. This guy is hoping for a sucker. www.ebay.com/itm/322412505730

feipoa wrote:

$150 for a PC Chips motherboard (m918) of known horrific cache/RAM timings. Rude seller. This guy is hoping for a sucker. http://www.ebay.com/itm/322412505730

buy it, then tell him you want to return it, let him waste atleast €50 on shipping for being rude 😈

tayyare wrote:

Later 386 boards (from the gold age of AMD 386-40) are virtually ALL supported 16MB SIMMs, which means 64MB max. total is common. I clearly remember looking for options for a friend who wanted to buy a "put together 386 DX40" PC in 1993, and all the options available was advertising "64MB max. RAM" (which is actually very irrelevant since most of them sold with 4MB only). My own 386, an AMD Dx40 board supports 128MB of RAM (having 64 MB at the moment).

But how much RAM could it cache? Normally, 256 KB is the most I see on late 386 boards. Can't 256K in WT mode only cache 64 MB of RAM?

Some sort of Cirrus Logic VL Bus card. No in dept information and a shitty picture... "Only" 918 British pounds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CIRRUS-LOGIC-VESA-LOC … 4QAAOxy3HJTJDrg

And another "bargain".... Only 299 US Dollars.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerColor-Cirrus-Log … jMAAOSwZVlXq6kZ

It might be new, then were is the original box? And it might be rare, wich I have no idea if it is.
Though it can't be boxless n' rare enough for 299 US Dollars. It's only a 5428 1mb after all.
Or does it have secret jedi powers or something like that?

brostenen wrote:

Or does it have secret jedi powers or something like that?

Yes. It uses the Force to manipulate midichlorians in the CPU and make your PC faster.

keenmaster486 wrote:

brostenen wrote:

Or does it have secret jedi powers or something like that?

Yes. It uses the Force to manipulate midichlorians in the CPU and make your PC faster.

Actually using it, will generate tiny little Anakin's inside my Ram too? Must be some kind of Sith-card I guess. 🤣
Uhmmmm..... CL-5428 "Palpatine edition". I guessed it wrong, it comes from the dark side then?
As the price you pay for it, are actually quite high.

I wonder if the purpose of these insane prices is to have hardware just sit on eBay to inflate the value of old PC hardware.