https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/d/vint … 6191218801.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sop/d/vint … 6195684582.html

Here are a couple good systems that are overpriced, $200 for a P3 tower and $400 for a P1 system bundle (with a Roland SC-55)? seriously? I could find cheaper systems than those even on eBay (excluding the accessories of course).

xplus93 wrote:

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/sop/d/old-ass- … 6200333474.html

I can easily assume this will be outrageously priced.

Woah, you're in the Newport News area too? I saw that ad browsing my Craigslist and kind of ignored it.

xplus93 wrote:

Carlos S. M. wrote:

rare 486SX system with a CRT embedded on the case for 200$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dash-OPS-1000-Desktop … FoAAOSw5cRZLYEt

Fair price IMO. And it looks VERY cool. Reminds me of the computer from 1984 even though they don't look alike. Or a cold war soviet macintosh.

I remember seeing one of these upgraded with a 133mhz Kingston TurboChip sell on eBay for around $300. Maybe I can lowball this guy and get myself one :p

cj_reha wrote:

xplus93 wrote:

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/sop/d/old-ass- … 6200333474.html

I can easily assume this will be outrageously priced.

Woah, you're in the Newport News area too? I saw that ad browsing my Craigslist and kind of ignored it.

Not exactly, but close enough. BTW, how are you enjoying the goodwill outlet? Some good stuff gets put in their 5 dollar card bin or on the as-is desktop shelf. Passed up a blue dell XPS once, before I got back into collecting.

xplus93 wrote:

cj_reha wrote:

xplus93 wrote:

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/sop/d/old-ass- … 6200333474.html

I can easily assume this will be outrageously priced.

Woah, you're in the Newport News area too? I saw that ad browsing my Craigslist and kind of ignored it.

Not exactly, but close enough. BTW, how are you enjoying the goodwill outlet? Some good stuff gets put in their 5 dollar card bin or on the as-is desktop shelf. Passed up a blue dell XPS once, before I got back into collecting.

I've actually had better luck getting "old" stuff from mom & pop stores, but I do get some neat stuff from them sometimes.

BTW, were you the guy who snagged the lot of ~4 towers, some CRTs and printers? There was an ad with those and one of the towers was a baby AT, so I emailed the seller who said it was already sold :c

cj_reha wrote:

BTW, were you the guy who snagged the lot of ~4 towers, some CRTs and printers? There was an ad with those and one of the towers was a baby AT, so I emailed the seller who said it was already sold :c

nope, I stick to dell systems.

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

I hate Electromyne. I have a feeling it won't be long before they start buying up all cheap retro hardware on eBay and completely ruin the market similar to consoles. I can't wait until they go out of business.

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

I'm really conflicted with their relationship with Phil. (from Phil's computer lab obviously). I hate shills. I hate advertising of any kind. HOWEVER, I understand people need money. For some reason it seems EVERYONE likes to eat, likes A/C in the summer, heat in the winter, etc. And if I were to trade spots with Phil. I'm 95% sure I would happily plug their business for free shit.

Vote with you wallet. if their stuff is overpriced, don't buy it. But remember EVERYONE here has that short list of "MUST HAVE" items they would pay almost anything for. I'm looking for an Asus TRL-DLS. Last 2 i've ever seen came out of germany, but I couldn't get them shipped to the US. Obviously someone like elecromyne would be happy to sell me a board. I overpaid on my last big acquisition, because I literally believed if I didn't cough up $350, i'd never scratch off the #1 item on my must have list. The Asus TRL-DLS was #2. I just spent $125 I didn't really have, on a 486 i'll probably never use, just because it looked cool.

luckybob wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

I'm really conflicted with their relationship with Phil. (from Phil's computer lab obviously). I hate shills. I hate advertising of any kind. HOWEVER, I understand people need money. For some reason it seems EVERYONE likes to eat, likes A/C in the summer, heat in the winter, etc. And if I were to trade spots with Phil. I'm 95% sure I would happily plug their business for free shit.

Vote with you wallet. if their stuff is overpriced, don't buy it. But remember EVERYONE here has that short list of "MUST HAVE" items they would pay almost anything for. I'm looking for an Asus TRL-DLS. Last 2 i've ever seen came out of germany, but I couldn't get them shipped to the US. Obviously someone like elecromyne would be happy to sell me a board. I overpaid on my last big acquisition, because I literally believed if I didn't cough up $350, i'd never scratch off the #1 item on my must have list. The Asus TRL-DLS was #2. I just spent $125 I didn't really have, on a 486 i'll probably never use, just because it looked cool.

There are a lot of us here who are on fixed or low income. For us paying more than $25 dollars on anything just isn't doable. We don't need Electromyne. Phil is already pissed off at me just for mentioning the Electromyne thing already so I guess I'm safe to shoot my tongue off. Phil has already said somewhere (I'd qoute it if I could find it) that his main limitation is time. I believe his exact words were "I'm lucky enough to be one of those who have the money, but time is the issue" or words largely to those effect. Plus he already (I presume) makes ad revenue on YouTube. He didn't need to support this shitty company. It's his channel and he's more than welcome to do what he wants (and not only welcomed, but encouraged to openly contradict me if I've said something in error here) with it but I personally disagree as I feel like those with influence have a duty to the community to encourage trends that promote the healthy growth of the community, not destructive corporate entity's. Now, if that were a company that offered reasonable prices that would be an entirely different story. That Hercules card above should be around $50 USD, not $300. There's no excuse for them to make 300+ percent profit as I'm sure there either sourcing there parts from salvage or mass buying hardware on a flat rate basis. I almost wonder if they even bother to get the opinions of the extreme niche community they serve.

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

i bought some ram in the past from him, they aren't to pricey for what I require, but he is also selling stuff at ridicilous prices imo. To them and maybe some collectors it maybe worth it but not to me. He is sadly fortunate enough to sell the 2 cards I desperately want however charging €200,- for a Geforce 4 4600 TI is abit to much for my taste same goes for his Geforce 3 500 TI which is priced in the same category. I once asked him if he made a mistake with some of his listings I was interested in (the Geforce 3 & 4 TI for that matter) and his reply was: they are just that rare 😈
I rather setup dosbox then start paying such prices for single parts which I usually build a whole system for.

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Sparkle-SP7200T6-PT-12 … 353.m1438.l2649

Richo wrote:

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dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

i bought some ram in the past from him, they aren't to pricey for what I require, but he is also selling stuff at ridicilous prices imo. To them and maybe some collectors it maybe worth it but not to me. He is sadly fortunate enough to sell the 2 cards I desperately want however charging €200,- for a Geforce 4 4600 TI is abit to much for my taste same goes for his Geforce 3 500 TI which is priced in the same category. I once asked him if he made a mistake with some of his listings I was interested in (the Geforce 3 & 4 TI for that matter) and his reply was: they are just that rare 😈
I rather setup dosbox then start paying such prices for single parts which I usually build a whole system for.

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Sparkle-SP7200T6-PT-12 … 353.m1438.l2649

This guy knows there are $36 Ti 500s on eBay right now right? Even with international shipping to Europe they would be immensely cheaper. I can't say I know of any 4600s off the top of my head but I haven't looked either so.

FWIW in view of mention of the seller above - pretty sure I bought a video card from electromyne and it came wrapped in plain bubblewrap. It worked, but for the price I expected proper antistatic.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

There are a lot of us here who are on fixed or low income. For us paying more than $25 dollars on anything just isn't doable. We don't need Electromyne. Phil is already pissed off at me just for mentioning the Electromyne thing already so I guess I'm safe to shoot my tongue off. Phil has already said somewhere (I'd qoute it if I could find it) that his main limitation is time. I believe his exact words were "I'm lucky enough to be one of those who have the money, but time is the issue" or words largely to those effect. Plus he already (I presume) makes ad revenue on YouTube. He didn't need to support this shitty company. It's his channel and he's more than welcome to do what he wants (and not only welcomed, but encouraged to openly contradict me if I've said something in error here) with it but I personally disagree as I feel like those with influence have a duty to the community to encourage trends that promote the healthy growth of the community, not destructive corporate entity's.

Low income people have more things to worry about than collecting useless (for practical purposes) stuff. Not sure why you're pissed as Electomyne caters to the exact type of people Phil is... people who have money but no time. I spend hours looking through eBay, CL, yahoo auctions, and the local electronic recycle center each week. If I was well off, I sure as f wouldn't want to spend time doing that. I'd rather spend time playing with my gear and hire someone else to look for me.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Now, if that were a company that offered reasonable prices that would be an entirely different story. That Hercules card above should be around $50 USD, not $300. There's no excuse for them to make 300+ percent profit as I'm sure there either sourcing there parts from salvage or mass buying hardware on a flat rate basis. I almost wonder if they even bother to get the opinions of the extreme niche community they serve.

Lol, who dictates what is reasonable price? Used components prices are entirely set by the free market (supply/demand). Why do you think a Hercules GF2U should be $50? It could very be. But history says otherwise. The last GF2U was BIN for $50 + shipping (it probably got BIN'ed after a couple hours). But IIRC, the two before that ended at over $100 without BIN.

Also not all their stuff is overpriced. They had (keyword) 512MB RIMM 4200 memory for about $20. Which was extremely reasonable. Unfortunately, by the time I had a chance at a P4T533 board, it was OOS.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Richo wrote:

i bought some ram in the past from him, they aren't to pricey for what I require, but he is also selling stuff at ridicilous prices imo. To them and maybe some collectors it maybe worth it but not to me. He is sadly fortunate enough to sell the 2 cards I desperately want however charging €200,- for a Geforce 4 4600 TI is abit to much for my taste same goes for his Geforce 3 500 TI which is priced in the same category. I once asked him if he made a mistake with some of his listings I was interested in (the Geforce 3 & 4 TI for that matter) and his reply was: they are just that rare 😈
I rather setup dosbox then start paying such prices for single parts which I usually build a whole system for.

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Sparkle-SP7200T6-PT-12 … 353.m1438.l2649

This guy knows there are $36 Ti 500s on eBay right now right? Even with international shipping to Europe they would be immensely cheaper. I can't say I know of any 4600s off the top of my head but I haven't looked either so.

I assume you're referring to the Dell GF3 Ti500's. 1) That guy doesn't ship internationally. 2) Thats a generic Dell SKU, so nothing special. Ti4600's go for around $30-50, depending on luck, condition, etc. A sh1tty title will sink the sale price tremendously (like the boxed Asus Ti4600 that I forgot to bid on).

dexvx wrote:


Low income people have more things to worry about than collecting useless (for practical purposes) stuff. Not sure why you're pissed as Electomyne caters to the exact type of people Phil is... people who have money but no time. I spend hours looking through eBay, CL, yahoo auctions, and the local electronic recycle center each week. If I was well off, I sure as f wouldn't want to spend time doing that. I'd rather spend time playing with my gear and hire someone else to look for me.

I'm a college student with no income. It's pretty high on my priority list. If you can't understand that then that highlights your lack of passion for the hobby. Some of us jump at free CL postings and spend half their day driving around in the middle of summer with no A/C to pick stuff up.

dexvx wrote:


Lol, who dictates what is reasonable price? Used components prices are entirely set by the free market (supply/demand). Why do you think a Hercules GF2U should be $50? It could very be. But history says otherwise. The last GF2U was BIN for $50 + shipping (it probably got BIN'ed after a couple hours). But IIRC, the two before that ended at over $100 without BIN.

Also not all their stuff is overpriced. They had (keyword) 512MB RIMM 4200 memory for about $20. Which was extremely reasonable. Unfortunately, by the time I had a chance at a P4T533 board, it was OOS.

You have a very simple understanding of the "free market" (possibly from watching too much fox news?) So you don't think it's possible for someone to manipulate the market if they have sufficient influence?

dexvx wrote:


I assume you're referring to the Dell GF3 Ti500's. 1) That guy doesn't ship internationally. 2) Thats a generic Dell SKU, so nothing special. Ti4600's go for around $30-50, depending on luck, condition, etc. A sh1tty title will sink the sale price tremendously (like the boxed Asus Ti4600 that I forgot to bid on).

Shipping internationally has nothing to do with the sale value. (Again, showing your flawed egocentric thought pattern)

The bottom line is that giving control of the market to a few key players will push the market in a direction that many people don't want it to go. Look at the audio collecting and video game collecting markets. Do you really want to have the size of someones wallet be more influential than their passion? Do you want it to be purely about prestige and associating a dollar value to it? That really seems like what you are saying by telling people if they can't afford it then get out.

dexvx wrote:

Low income people have more things to worry about than collecting useless (for practical purposes) stuff.

That isn't necessarily true. I'm on a fixed income, and maintaining a calm & relaxed (stress free,) lifestyle is one of the main goals for me to actually stay alive. It's one of the reasons that I'm not allowed to work. Stress can actually kill me. It's already caused 1 mini stroke (or so I'm told.) Just sitting around doing nothing actually causes stress in most people, so I'm under doctor's orders to foster hobbies & projects I enjoy. With disability & SSI, along with income based housing, I do have some disposable income each month (usually.) With part set aside to build up for emergencies, I would (under normal circumstances,) have around $50-$100 a month to spend on my hobbies (one of which is getting my nostalgia systems up & running.) For the last few months I've been having unexpected expenses every month that have demolished my savings, though 🙁 So I'm mostly concentrating on building that back up again.

That being said: I, generally, don't get "pissed" at people over-pricing things. I tend to laugh at them, yes. Mostly when they obviously don't know the market. The closest I get to being upset is at people who pay ridiculous prices for things because they have the money and don't want to actually spend the few minutes it would take to that see that the price is off, or wait for a more reasonable one to appear. Even then, I'm not angry, just a little irked. They will cause a spike in the price for a while. But it will "usually" settle back down eventually. Come on now, It doesn't take that long (on eBay at least,) to go up to the search bar, search for the item, select "sort by price+shipping lowest to highest", and scroll through and see that the $200 thing-a-ma-jig they want is also available for $20 with shipping from someone else. Many times, when searching for something, I will do a search for "completed" listings. I don't know how many times I've seen a "sold" listing for a ridiculous price, with several other sales (before, after, & at nearly the same time,) for much more reasonable prices. That tells me that the buyer was either a shill, an idiot, or someone that was just lazy & rich.

Items that are genuinely rare, I can see extravagant prices for. Common items, not so much. Any item that entered general circulation with a full production line, for the most part, doesn't fall into this category. Anything with a limited release run can, and usually does, qualify. So, a generic MB that was common, when released, being sold for $500 doesn't make sense to me. That is an actual item I came across. I actually bought an equivalent board (different manufacturer, same chipset, slots, & such,) for $25. It took me 1 minute to find several. Though it did take me a couple of hours of research into all of them before deciding on the one to actually purchase. It wasn't even the cheapest, but the feeback was better, and the reviews on the board were still available & good. If I had wanted to take a bit of a risk, I could have gotten it for around $10 instead, and would have probably been just as happy with the results.

luckybob wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

I'm really conflicted with their relationship with Phil. (from Phil's computer lab obviously). I hate shills. I hate advertising of any kind. HOWEVER, I understand people need money. For some reason it seems EVERYONE likes to eat, likes A/C in the summer, heat in the winter, etc. And if I were to trade spots with Phil. I'm 95% sure I would happily plug their business for free shit.

Vote with you wallet. if their stuff is overpriced, don't buy it. But remember EVERYONE here has that short list of "MUST HAVE" items they would pay almost anything for. I'm looking for an Asus TRL-DLS. Last 2 i've ever seen came out of germany, but I couldn't get them shipped to the US. Obviously someone like elecromyne would be happy to sell me a board. I overpaid on my last big acquisition, because I literally believed if I didn't cough up $350, i'd never scratch off the #1 item on my must have list. The Asus TRL-DLS was #2. I just spent $125 I didn't really have, on a 486 i'll probably never use, just because it looked cool.

I am Very concerned that they can and almost certainly will hog the market and price most of us out especially those who are barely middle class let alone anyone who isn't in the well to do parts of the world and lower on the pole economically. Those prices on some of those items is close to or even higher than retail when those items were new! I already despise European pricing cluster fucking this hobby but the writing is on the wall. 😠

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Looks like Electromyne is selling stuff on eBay. Prices are high for 90% of things. 10% prices are ok to decent. But their international shipping is very reasonable (at least to US).

Hercules GF2 Ultra
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-3D-Prophet-I … 1-/272772664387

I hate Electromyne. I have a feeling it won't be long before they start buying up all cheap retro hardware on eBay and completely ruin the market similar to consoles. I can't wait until they go out of business.

Took a look at their INSANE prices and looks like we're already going in that direction, cheaper to have a time machine and buy some of that stuff new at retail prices than what they are charging. Give it two or three years they will have people paying $300 to $500 for a single Voodoo 2/3 and $1000-$5000 for dual socket/slot pentium 2/3 era boards as the greed knows no limits.

dexvx wrote:

Low income people have more things to worry about than collecting useless (for practical purposes) stuff.

Pardon my salty language and knee-jerk reaction, but fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Just because I don't have as much money as you do, suddenly I'm not supposed to enjoy the things that give my life meaning? Somehow, having a hobby is not permissible unless you make over X per year? I would highly suggest you reword your statement, because I think you just rubbed a whole bunch of people here wrong.

Low income people have more things to worry about than collecting useless (for practical purposes) stuff. Not sure why you're pissed as Electomyne caters to the exact type of people Phil is... people who have money but no time. I spend hours looking through eBay, CL, yahoo auctions, and the local electronic recycle center each week. If I was well off, I sure as f wouldn't want to spend time doing that. I'd rather spend time playing with my gear and hire someone else to look for me.

You could've phrased that a little better no? Also please define low income since that's relative, also everyone is entitled to their hobby as much as the next. Also I am curious as what other priorities a lower income family has compared to a higher one cause frankly you made me curious 😀