You know, if there's some kind of incompatibility like that and there's no indication prior to purchasing that it's present, as a consumer, you're fully entitled to rant and rave about it. Leaving a bad review because something doesn't work as intended helps PREVENT the exact kind of situation you encountered and encourages the manufacturer to do better. :o

Gemini000 wrote:

You know, if there's some kind of incompatibility like that and there's no indication prior to purchasing that it's present, as a consumer, you're fully entitled to rant and rave about it. Leaving a bad review because something doesn't work as intended helps PREVENT the exact kind of situation you encountered and encourages the manufacturer to do better. 😮

+1. Also, a lot of places you can post reviews will let you come back and edit/amend them and say "yeah this actually changed" if you feel inclined.

And as an aside joke, it's an ATI card on an AMD motherboard! RAGE ON RADEON!!! 😁

archsan wrote:

And as an aside joke, it's an ATI card on an AMD motherboard! RAGE ON RADEON!!! :D

I use an nVidia GPU on an AMD CPU. :P

...what can I say? I like AMD's CPUs but hate their video cards. It happens. :B

Gemini000 wrote:

Leaving a bad review because something doesn't work as intended helps PREVENT the exact kind of situation you encountered and encourages the manufacturer to do better. 😮

Even if I bought this on Ebay used and the seller said card worked?

archsan wrote:

And as an aside joke, it's an ATI card on an AMD motherboard! RAGE ON RADEON!!! 😁

Speaking of which, I have a pcx5750 that does work on my ga-970a-ud3. It actually uses a AGP to PCIE bridge but it's more compatible (no joke).

Holering wrote:

Even if I bought this on Ebay used and the seller said card worked?

I think it's an "Exceptional circumstance" to assume all users will have multiple different machines to troubleshoot/test cards on - I tend to look at used hardware purchases as "if I was buying this for my only computer..." and if it doesn't work there, it doesn't work, unless it's something silly that can be addressed (e.g. needs an adapter).

Speaking of which, I have a pcx5750 that does work on my ga-970a-ud3. It actually uses a AGP to PCIE bridge but it's more compatible (no joke).

Those nVidia bridges are really good! 😀

Holering wrote:

Speaking of which, I have a pcx5750 that does work on my ga-970a-ud3. It actually uses a AGP to PCIE bridge but it's more compatible (no joke).

Now that you mention it, the x800XL is a bridged card too isn't it? Unlike the X800/X850 (PE) which were native AGP.

Bad review? No need to be hasty making it. The problem might be somewhere else.

Gemini000 wrote:

archsan wrote:

And as an aside joke, it's an ATI card on an AMD motherboard! RAGE ON RADEON!!! 😁

I use an nVidia GPU on an AMD CPU. 😜

...what can I say? I like AMD's CPUs but hate their video cards. It happens. :B

IMHO, AMD makes really good GPUs these days, can't say that about their CPUs, though.

Purchased product. Product not functioning. Gives a error about "not supported". In the process of returning product.

1/5 Do Not Buy This Non-Functional Software

obobskivich wrote:

Those nVidia bridges are really good! 😀

Do you think I should toss the rage128 for the PCX5750? I think the pcx5750 is pretty good considering I can run Windows 95C with it, along with the Vortex 2. I think it is amazing the Vortex 2 actually has DOS sound in 95 (outside DOS) on a AM3+ system; PCX 5750 actually does work in Windows 95 too (except nvidia control panel). Serial mouse with PS2 keyboard works fine in 95, 7, and Linux.

archsan wrote:

Now that you mention it, the x800XL is a bridged card too isn't it?

No. It is native PCIE. Only the agp cards are bridged.

^Ah yes of course it's native PCIE, and the bridged one is the agp version, even that's what I meant -- I just had a momentary amnesia as to what this thread's about. 😜

Anyway, I've been wondering everytime I see your sig -- do you actually get win9x working with all that? Don't you have any driver problem? And did you do anything special to get around the RAM limitation?

The live! card has trouble with sb16 emulation so that is the only problem I've had. Kind of why I like the Vortex.

Holering wrote:

obobskivich wrote:

Those nVidia bridges are really good! 😀

Do you think I should toss the rage128 for the PCX5750? I think the pcx5750 is pretty good considering I can run Windows 95C with it, along with the Vortex 2. I think it is amazing the Vortex 2 actually has DOS sound in 95 (outside DOS) on a AM3+ system; PCX 5750 actually does work in Windows 95 too (except nvidia control panel). Serial mouse with PS2 keyboard works fine in 95, 7, and Linux.

Shouldn't older nVidia drivers (pre "Control Panel") work fine though? I mean basically it's a GeForce FX 5700 - it supports a lot of things, except "early" GeForce FX drivers. If you don't need any special S3/3dfx/etc features why not use it then? It should best the Rage128 at pretty much everything (image quality, performance, features, output quality, output options, etc) and it isn't like it's a big power drain monster (like a modern high end card). 😀

If you need a faster PCX (or just another one), something you might consider is the Quadro FX 1300 - it's the Quadro-fied PCX 59xx. They're also (for whatever reason) extremely plentiful (and cheap) on ebay. 😀

Holering wrote:

Gemini000 wrote:

Leaving a bad review because something doesn't work as intended helps PREVENT the exact kind of situation you encountered and encourages the manufacturer to do better. :o

Even if I bought this on Ebay used and the seller said card worked?

OH... you mean eBay feedback... that's a somewhat different beast entirely as I thought you meant a PRODUCT review, like on an online store.

The thing with feedback on eBay is that you're grading the sellers themselves, not the products they're selling. If the seller delivers a product and it functions the way it's supposed to, including the faults the product has by default, that's not a hit against the seller really. Plus, most sellers are willing to accommodate if things go wrong, and if something goes wrong and you need to return something, that's still technically positive (or at the worst, neutral) feedback to leave since the seller was willing to work with you to come to some kind of amicable solution.

Even eBay itself does its best to tell people not to leave neutral or negative feedback without first trying to work things out with the seller.

Not exactly false reviews, but this one is probably close: a totally layman review on a multimedia speaker. I wasn't an audiophile at that time, and I have totally forgotten what my dad told me about sensitivity, frequency response curve, stereo imaging, and the likes. And of course, it was the time when I mistakenly thought the warm sound of Wharfedale Diamond 7 was the final world in hi-fi. So I merely described what I saw and listened, with a lot of praises, without even knowing how flat and how deep the speakers are.

Well in the context of multimedia speakers, probably the review is almost adequate, but still....

@Gemini000
I agree that a product review deserves negative feedback to help other customers. But yeah eBay sometimes tells me to be more careful...