Mortal Kombat 2, MechWarrior 2, The Settlers II, Europa Universalis II... Day of the Tentacle some that come to mind. 😁

I loved the HoMM 2, and then 3 , 4 came and I was like "it is okay, but not what I wanted". Then HoMM 5 came out, and I immediately fell in love again and its two expansions. Also I would say Warlords 2 Deluxe is probably my favourite of the Warlords games I have played. But oh well, why does it outshine it predecessors ? Probably because of its editor.

To be honest this topic misleads a lot as it is a matter of personal preference who and what game likes more.
For instance HoMM II and HoMM III are not comparable since both games are great. Comparing the original Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is wrong as well, because I can find a bunch of people who swear by Half-Life 1. Another incorrect example is to compare the original Diablo to Diablo II because the second game has lost that dark Gothic atmosphere which Diablo 1 is known for.

Dreamer_of_the_past wrote:

To be honest this topic misleads a lot as it is a matter of personal preference who and what game likes more.
For instance HoMM II and HoMM III are not comparable since both games are great. Comparing the original Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is wrong as well, because I can find a bunch of people who swear by Half-Life 1. Another incorrect example is to compare the original Diablo to Diablo II because the second game has lost that dark Gothic atmosphere which Diablo 1 is known for.

Well, you are right, it is a matter of personal preference, but is it not the natural order of things? I can't see anything wrong with it. When it comes to "which game is better?", could there be any criteria other than personal preferences?

tayyare wrote:

Dreamer_of_the_past wrote:

To be honest this topic misleads a lot as it is a matter of personal preference who and what game likes more.
For instance HoMM II and HoMM III are not comparable since both games are great. Comparing the original Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is wrong as well, because I can find a bunch of people who swear by Half-Life 1. Another incorrect example is to compare the original Diablo to Diablo II because the second game has lost that dark Gothic atmosphere which Diablo 1 is known for.

Well, you are right, it is a matter of personal preference, but is it not the natural order of things? I can't see anything wrong with it. When it comes to "which game is better?", could there be any criteria other than personal preferences?

Well, in some ways sequels are better, but in some ways they are worst, not sure if "outshined" is the right word for it. Technically newer games will always be more advanced, but does it make them better in any way? I don't think so.

Dreamer_of_the_past wrote:

tayyare wrote:

Dreamer_of_the_past wrote:

To be honest this topic misleads a lot as it is a matter of personal preference who and what game likes more.
For instance HoMM II and HoMM III are not comparable since both games are great. Comparing the original Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is wrong as well, because I can find a bunch of people who swear by Half-Life 1. Another incorrect example is to compare the original Diablo to Diablo II because the second game has lost that dark Gothic atmosphere which Diablo 1 is known for.

Well, you are right, it is a matter of personal preference, but is it not the natural order of things? I can't see anything wrong with it. When it comes to "which game is better?", could there be any criteria other than personal preferences?

Well, in some ways sequels are better, but in some ways they are worst, not sure if "outshined" is the right word for it. Technically newer games will always be more advanced, but does it make them better in any way? I don't think so.

Well, you are again right. 😈 Technically newer games will always be more advanced, but this is not enough to make them better. Empire Earth III, Larry Magna Cum Laude, Postal III, Duke Nukem Forever are all well known for their worseness when compared to their predecessors. I personally can add New Wolfenstein, Warcraft III, FarCry 2 and some more to this list.

But again, isn't this the whole purpose of this? This is why the guy who is started this topic asking for "which ones?". 😀

tayyare wrote:

Well, you are again right. 😈 Technically newer games will always be more advanced, but this is not enough to make them better. Empire Earth III, Larry Magna Cum Laude, Postal III, Duke Nukem Forever are all well known for their worseness when compared to their predecessors. I personally can add New Wolfenstein, Warcraft III, FarCry 2 and some more to this list.

But again, isn't this the whole purpose of this? This is why the guy who is started this topic asking for "which ones?". 😀

I haven't played those other games that you have listed, but Warcraft III was a success and the original Blizzard North team was part of the reason of it. Although it was the more advanced game compare to Warcraft II, which is why some of old school didn't like it. It was difficult for them to learn since they wanted a basic sequel to Warcraft II. The biggest problem most of old school players have done is when they refused to actually try this game out. People loved it around the world and it was very popular at the eSports scene. Therefore both Warcraft II and Warcraft III were successful games.

About the topic, a true outshined example might be Warcraft II compare to Warcraft 1, but then again someone may show up and say that he likes Warcaft 1 more than Warcraft II 😀

Dreamer_of_the_past wrote:

...I haven't played those other games that you have listed, but Warcraft III was a success and the original Blizzard North team was part of the reason of it. Although it was the more advanced game compare to Warcraft II, which is why some of old school didn't like it. It was difficult for them to learn since they wanted a basic sequel to Warcraft II. The biggest problem most of old school players have done is when they refused to actually try this game out. People loved it around the world and it was very popular at the eSports scene. Therefore both Warcraft II and Warcraft III were successful games.

Just as before, you are right again. They are both successful games. I have Warcraft III, played it to the end, and enjoyed it very much. I was just saying, to me, Warcaft II was more fun compared to Warcraft III, in my humble opinion. 😈

Obviously, System Shock, GTA, Hexen, Need for Speed, Delta Force, A-10 Tank Killer...

No one mentioned Jagged Alliance 2 yet? 😀