I had it on my core solo laptop w/ 4 gigs ram. Ran pretty effin slow. But I liked it for the most part.

I will probably skip it. Windows 7 is the new XP. 🤣

Tried it on my Asus Eee 1005PE w/2GB RAM & SSD. Upgrading failed with the 'Something happened' error, a clean install worked but now it won't activate. Later I found out that it won't recognize my product key unless I go through the whole upgrade shenanigans. Doesn't seem to run any faster than the Windows 7 Starter the machine came with, but I haven't really used it much. Seems a bit less inconsistent than Windows 8, but didn't like the new Start menu nor the smartphone-like settings screen.

Don't know at the moment if I'll keep it or not, feels pretty 'meh'.

Been using the previews for awhile. Downloaded the ISO today and will probably get around to trying it in a week or two when I have time.

8 trained me to avoid the start screen and go back to using icons on the desktop so that's pretty much how I've been using 10 even tho the search doesn't take up the entire screen anymore it's still annoying.

It's nice to not accidently have the charms bar pop up, it boots faster and so far has done a fairly decent job of getting out of the way so I can do what an OS is supposed to do and run my programs.

PeterLI wrote:

I will probably skip it. Windows 7 is the new XP. 🤣

🤣 It seems so! I still have a partition for Windows 7 on my main machine for gaming but since I just don't have much patience for games these days I mainly stay on my linux partition.

I would only ever user linux for personal computing because proprietary operating systems in 2015 are privacy nightmares. That said, if I were tempted by a DX12 title, I would consider a gaming only boot partition of W10. That hasn't happened yet.

What illegal and shameful activities are you doing with your computer if you need total privacy?
Since Windows 8.1 was the best windows ever made so far I am guessing Windows 10 will be good as well. But due to age of my T61 I will give it some time to mature.

Stojke wrote:

What illegal and shameful activities are you doing with your computer if you need total privacy?
Since Windows 8.1 was the best windows ever made so far I am guessing Windows 10 will be good as well. But due to age of my T61 I will give it some time to mature.

Assuming you're serious, for me privacy has nothing to do with illegal or shameful. I have an expectation of privacy when using personal electronic devices owned and operated by me. I also have an expectation of freedom to modify and study these devices and the way they behave (software). Actually using windows for your personal computing is then a violation by all accounts. I do look the other way for retro gaming 😉

Stojke wrote:

What illegal and shameful activities are you doing with your computer if you need total privacy?

Trust me bro, you really should just turn away. 😊

Seriously though, I know that us folks in the USA are doing our best to become everything we criticized about the USSR, but surely you know that's a pretty old argument.

Stojke wrote:

Since Windows 8.1 was the best windows ever made so far I am guessing Windows 10 will be good as well.

Stojke wrote:

But due to age of my T61 I will give it some time to mature.

I would love to have a T61 with a standard 4:3 screen and NVIDIA or Radeon graphics. I think it would make a perfect WinXP laptop.

Nobody can stop you to modify what you own. There is so much way somebody can steal from and spy you today that its absurd to be obsessed with security. If somebody wanted to take your "shit" they already took it 😀

No trollin, just personal experience. Windows 8.1 is by far the best Windows I have used and developed in. Especially because of easy to use interface and metro. People, if six wheels provide more stability and efficiency you use six wheels no matter how "ugly" it is.

T61 pretty much is an XP machine, especially because of X3100 graphics in it. In windows Vista and up the graphics adapter driver is useless. have to use an modified one in order to have basic open Gl and acceleration. Still with this driver programs like Valve Hammer Editor do not function properly at all. I used Win XP x Mint 17 for a year with it and got fed up of switching constantly.

I have a few PCs with Windows 8.1, where I registered for the free Win10 update, but none of them have downloaded the update yet, apparently, because I haven't seen the notification to install it yet.
As soon as I get the signal, I will upgrade.

I've been running Windows 10 preview in a VirtualBox VM on my Linux box for 6 months or so. So I was well prepared for the release.

I upgraded my gaming rig (i5 16GB) from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on release day using the media creation tool to skip the queue. My Windows 7 was starting to get a bit clunky and I was planning on doing a fresh install of 10. But, I tried the upgrade first. What a difference, 10 brought new life back in my machine. Boot times are faster, and Steam loads quicker at boot. Overall everything just feels snappier. I didn't run into any issues during the upgrade process. I did do a fresh install of my nVidia drivers using the newly released Win 10 version.

This morning I tested streaming games from my Xbox One to the new Xbox app in Windows 10. Using a wireless Xbox 360 joystick I was able to play Forza Horizon on Windows 10. I didn't notice any lag, but I do notice some artifacting due to the video compression. It will be a handy feature when my wife is watching her show on the TV where the Xbox One is, and I just have to play something on it.

Stojke wrote:

What illegal and shameful activities are you doing with your computer if you need total privacy?
Since Windows 8.1 was the best windows ever made so far I am guessing Windows 10 will be good as well. But due to age of my T61 I will give it some time to mature.

Its not about total privacy.

I do not really care what the NSA knows about me but I do care if private corporations do similar profiling and keeps a record with all information about me they can get their hands on even if its only for advertising purposes. I can say with confidence that no information database is 100% secure, information will leak and this can have serious consequences if you are politically active in certain countries in for example the Middle East.

I do not live in such a country but my behaviour when using the Internet has changed anyway. 15 years ago I was activly using Face Book like social media, I was activly discussing poletics on open forums and I talked about private stuff using IRC (but not ICQ or MSN which kept records of everything online). Today I do non of those things, the only thing I activly discuss online is computers and other technical things. Even if I have nothing to hide that dosnt mean I want personal information about me and people close to me spread all over and saved in huge databases beyond my control.

The fact that you have to leave your phone at home if you do not want records of your exact movements saved for ever annoys me alot. In the end I will probably sacrifice all online technology when I feel I can manage my life without it, which I sadly cant under current circumstances. What I can do today is to share as little information as possible so I dont support the fuckers more than I have to. I do not even like to discuss the things I just mentioned but the fact that people happily accept this shit makes me worry about the future.

Its also an issue for people who works with classified information. I know people who use their home computers for work stuff without realizing that they are sharing every key stroke with Microsoft and god knows who and by doing so they are breaking the law. I believe Hillary Clinton was such a person just to name one we all know about 😀

Of course, but the main and most important link in the protective chain is you. Confidential data should be protected during input, storage and transfer, as well as keeping track where is it used and to whom it is accessible. Don't worry about legality of what you do because they wont sue you for something not interesting/long forgotten.

In reality I write my passwords and important info partially and keep the other part with me.

Stojke wrote:

Nobody can stop you to modify what you own. There is so much way somebody can steal from and spy you today that its absurd to be obsessed with security. If somebody wanted to take your "shit" they already took it 😀

No trollin, just personal experience. Windows 8.1 is by far the best Windows I have used and developed in. Especially because of easy to use interface and metro. People, if six wheels provide more stability and efficiency you use six wheels no matter how "ugly" it is.

T61 pretty much is an XP machine, especially because of X3100 graphics in it. In windows Vista and up the graphics adapter driver is useless. have to use an modified one in order to have basic open Gl and acceleration. Still with this driver programs like Valve Hammer Editor do not function properly at all. I used Win XP x Mint 17 for a year with it and got fed up of switching constantly.

The T61 is an amazing computer. My daily laptop is a T61 motherboard with intel graphics put inside a 15" 4:3 chassis from a T60 so that I have that lovely flexview screen. It uses fedora.

With regard to modifications, that's absolutely not true. I can easily own a piece of proprietary software such as windows 10 and have no way to modify it or study it. It's entirely closed sourced. I think a common proprietary software analogy is being put in a straight jacket, except the average user is willing to A) pay for that privilege because jackets keep them warm, and B) don't know that they have arms that could be freely used.

I'm trying to keep my comments confined to proprietary operating systems, but outside of that it's an even worse privacy nightmare (as others have pointed out). Online accounts like social media, skype, email, cell phones, etc are all not OK. Cell phones are probably the most egregious of all in 2015.

Depends on determination. With out an formula you analyze individual components to get to it.
Some people analyze programs and alter them with hand made code, like for example Valve Hammer Editor 3.5 modifications.

But I understand you, it would be nice if you could interact more with things.

T61 is pretty ok, but I have the intel GMA version, very bad graphics driver for it. Wish it was an NVidia chip.

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Depends on determination. With out an formula you analyze individual components to get to it.
Some people analyze programs and alter them with hand made code, like for example Valve Hammer Editor 3.5 modifications.

But I understand you, it would be nice if you could interact more with things.

T61 is pretty ok, but I have the intel GMA version, very bad graphics driver for it. Wish it was an NVidia chip.

The T61 suffered from that nvidia gpu failure, so the only ones that are still kicking around today in high use are the intel T61 boards. There are some rare T61 nvidia boards where they fixed the issue but they are hard to get. The rarest and most desirable is FRU 44c3926 because you can put it in a T60 15". I personally use the 42w7872, which penryn native with intel graphics.

http://t61.wikispaces.com/

I know, but still, the only problem is that I can not use Valve Hammer Editor properly with the default drivers, and the modded drivers behave very retarded.

Yeah, just upgraded three of my systems to Win10. So far so good.

I'll be keeping my main system on Win7 a while longer. IIRC, OS X wasn't fully baked until 10.2 or 10.3 rolled out, so I'll probably wait til Windows "10.2" before upgrading the main system. 😀