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Reply 420 of 2072, by brostenen

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5volt 3amp power supply for my Orange Pi Plus 2 and a 16gb Sandisk ultra SD card as well.

Going to be sweet to run operating systems from the internal emmc storage. Now I am only missing a case for that board. Somehow they are hard to source, even on eBay at a decent price. Guess I have to build my own out of black painted metal and reddish brown painted wood.

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Reply 421 of 2072, by vetz

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I bought yet another Asus P6T Deluxe today, you can never get too many of these as they will last forever like Paladins. Do they even build motherboards with this kind of over-engineering anymore?

My X58 board is the ASUS P6X58D-E, how does that compare to the P6T? You seem to know more than I do on more modern hardware 😀

I should mention that I got that board, 12GB Dominator RAM, 128GB SSD, Noctua cooler, and a Intel Extreme Core i7 990X for 300 euro locally.. One of the best finds ever 😁

Got myself a Lian Li PC-A05FNB small ATX case. The plan is to use it for a quick WinXP build 😀

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Reply 422 of 2072, by Skyscraper

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vetz wrote:
My X58 board is the ASUS P6X58D-E, how does that compare to the P6T? You seem to know more than I do on more modern hardware :) […]
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I bought yet another Asus P6T Deluxe today, you can never get too many of these as they will last forever like Paladins. Do they even build motherboards with this kind of over-engineering anymore?

My X58 board is the ASUS P6X58D-E, how does that compare to the P6T? You seem to know more than I do on more modern hardware 😀

I should mention that I got that board, 12GB Dominator RAM, 128GB SSD, Noctua cooler, and a Intel Extreme Core i7 990X for 300 euro locally.. One of the best finds ever 😁

Got myself a Lian Li PC-A05FNB small ATX case. The plan is to use it for a quick WinXP build 😀

It has more incommon with the P6T Deluxe than the Vanilla P6T when looking at the power circuitry as it has the 16+2 phases. It's a second generation board (SATA3, USB3) so in many ways it's better than the P6T series but it isn't as pimped as the P6T Deluxe. It lacks the heatpipe cooling for the south brige and for one of the rows with VRM mosfets to name one example.

I like the layout of the P6T Deluxe better for running two video cards as the two main PCI-E 16x slots are spaced further apart from each other with the trade-off beeing that the third PCI-16x slot becomes more or less useless.

From what I have read it should be a better overclocking board than the P6T series and also have a little bit better performance. If I would choose a motherboard for the apocalypse and beyond I would choose the P6T Deluxe though. The much lower price point of the ASUS P6X58D-E must come with some trade-offs, I just don't know exactly what those are as I never held one in my hands.

The thing that makes me so sure about the longevity of the Asus P6T series is that I built about 10 systems with them back in 2009 for relatives and friends, friends friends and co workers, the systems are as far as I know all still working. I have so far bought back 4 of the systems when people (gamers no one else upgrades from the P6T) have upgraded. The systems have been clogged with dust and god knows what else but kept on chugging along. 😀

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Reply 423 of 2072, by vetz

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Skyscraper wrote:

From what I have read it should be a better overclocking board than the P6T series and also have a little bit better performance. If I would choose a motherboard for the apocalypse and beyond I would choose the P6T Deluxe though. The much lower price point of the ASUS P6X58D-E must come with some trade-offs, I just don't know exactly what those are as I never held one in my hands.

I did some research and according from Overclockersclub.com P6X58D-E is a later released version of the P6X58D Premium with some features removed:

This information applies to the ASUS P6X58D-E that is up for review here today, which looks identical to the ASUS P6X58D Premium but with some features removed. One LAN port is removed, the top heatsink no longer has a back plate, and two heat pipes are removed between the top two heatsinks and the Northbridge and Southbridge are separated. A reset button is removed from the board as well and the SATA 3.0 support chip was changed out and appears to be more robust.

The P6X58D is a later released board with USB3 and SATA6GB, while retaining the other features. I think the lower price point is because everyone who wants a X58 board nowadays want only the topline model.

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Reply 424 of 2072, by Skyscraper

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vetz wrote:

The P6X58D is a later released board with USB3 and SATA6GB, while retaining the other features. I think the lower price point is because everyone who wants a X58 board nowadays want only the topline model.

I meant lower price point when new. 😀

Now people (non gamers) are just happy if they can get their hands on any X58 board at all! 😁

A highly overclockable 6 core Xeon for $50 is pretty good bang for the buck if one needs a work station.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 425 of 2072, by vetz

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Introduction price you mean? Or price when both cards were on the marked?

From this thread it looks like it's a 100 dollars price difference between P6X58D and P6T Deluxe V2:
http://www.overclock.net/t/668558/p6x58d-premium-vs-p6t

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Reply 426 of 2072, by Skyscraper

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vetz wrote:

Introduction price you mean? Or price when both cards were on the marked?

From this thread it looks like it's a 100 dollars price difference between P6X58D and P6T Deluxe V2:
http://www.overclock.net/t/668558/p6x58d-premium-vs-p6t

I think those are more or less the same. Of course there were sales but otherwise I think the price point of the P6T series remained pretty close to their release prices, at least here in Sweden.

I guess most boards in the P6T series were more or less gone from the market or at least had reached the end of production when the P6X58D came out.

The $100 price difference between the P6T Deluxe and the P6X58D sounds about right. The P6X58D was better value for money for sure if you were choosing between them if they ever were sold side by side but as it didn't exist in the end of 2008 or during 2009 t's not really fair to compare.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 427 of 2072, by vetz

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X58 is still quite powerful, if you pair it with a new GPU you can still game away 😀

I have an early ECS X58B-A board laying around from my brother. Need to test and see if I can run a Xeon in it.

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Reply 428 of 2072, by luckybob

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I dont have pictures at the moment, but at goodwill, I saw in the case TWO raid cards. Both new in box.

https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/support/r … aid/sas-71605q/
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?I … N82E16816151104

Got both for $50. Hell, I can sell the 2nd one for probably $100 ob ebay. Being NIB. The top card will allow me to upgrade the raid in my main system. I'll be able to get the full performance out of my sata 3 SSD drives. I currently run a Raid 1 of four drives. 1.2GB/s total right now (because sata2). the new raid card will do sata3 and I fully expect 2+GB/s afterwards. ^.^

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Reply 429 of 2072, by Artex

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vetz wrote:

X58 is still quite powerful, if you pair it with a new GPU you can still game away 😀

I have an early ECS X58B-A board laying around from my brother. Need to test and see if I can run a Xeon in it.

This! Just paired my main rig's Core i7 980x (hexacore Gulftown) with an Asus Strix 1070oc edition. Kicks ass at 1920x1200 gaming.

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Reply 430 of 2072, by ODwilly

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Ordering an RX460 to replace the gtx 550ti in my brother's Phenom ii 965 rig. Should make some games a bit more enjoyable 🤣.

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Reply 431 of 2072, by brostenen

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Acrylic transparent case for my OrangePI Plus 2. Things are coming together now, as I wanted to do both a retro arcade/console emulation box as well as a cheap Linux NAS box, using a sata drive for storage.

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Reply 432 of 2072, by rein_ein

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Suspect it's still quite modern,bought bundle Asus P6T SE with i7 920 for 88$
Dis is gonna be my main machine till decent mini-itx am4 mobo overflow market.
b4 it i sold all my intel set while it pricey for like 510$
and yes overclocked 920 performing like my previous l33t K-series i7
*no pics dis time coz i already put it inside case full of wire jungle*

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Reply 433 of 2072, by Jade Falcon

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I bout myself a Seasonic SS-760XP2 psu. It will be used in my 604 system. Never had a platinum psu before. Should run cool and quite. Not only that but help lower the power bill a little.

Reply 434 of 2072, by luckybob

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Not as much as you think, but it will be an improvement. The ROI for a single computer that won't see 24/7 use is probably decades. try this site: http://jesusnjim.com/calculators/PSU-calculat … rs/PSU-ROI.html

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 435 of 2072, by kithylin

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luckybob wrote:

Not as much as you think, but it will be an improvement. The ROI for a single computer that won't see 24/7 use is probably decades. try this site: http://jesusnjim.com/calculators/PSU-calculat … rs/PSU-ROI.html

I think I already posted this but it depends on the system. I tend to have "Extreme" computers... several years ago my "daily driver" was a i7-980X 6 core gulftown @ 4.6 ghz @ 1.5v water cooled.. + 8 x 15,000 RPM seagate sas drives + 6x4GB ddr3 @ 2400 + 2 x GTX-470's water cooled and massively overclocked around +36%. Originally had it on a 1400 watt "80 Plus" power supply, system tended to pull around 1520 - 1580 watts AC side @ outlet (terrible efficiency), and the heat coming out the back of the power supply was like 50c constantly. Switched it up for a 1200 watt seasonic platinum unit later and the @ outlet AC draw dropped from 1500's down to 1080 - 1125, and the fan ran like 30% always and it was barely warm.

So.. just depends on what you're running. If your entire system pulls < 500 watts, then platinum may not make much difference. But if you're legitimately pulling in the 1200+ range, platinum would make much more sense.. and even consider the titanium ones.

And that system's totally retired.. and today I use a newer system.. I7-3770K @ 4.8 ghz water cooled, 2 x 8GB ddr3 @ 2279 Mhz, replaced the entire sas array with a pair of samsung pro SSD's, and replaced the 470's with a overclocked single 8GB R9 290X. Entire system only pulls 500 - 550 watts when gaming, and idles around 180 watts now. Roughly +250% faster gaming speed & +20% faster CPU speed.

Reply 436 of 2072, by luckybob

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I agree. I'm currently working on spending my tax refund. I'm upgrading my home file server from socket 604 to a 1366. This system would benefit from titanium power supply as it runs 24/7. planning on upgrading to 24 drives. ^.^

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 437 of 2072, by Jade Falcon

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It certainly will make a difference when compared to a 650w pre 80+ plus psu. And it will run 24/7.
I think the old delta unit in it is like 75% efficient.

Reply 438 of 2072, by kithylin

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luckybob wrote:

I agree. I'm currently working on spending my tax refund. I'm upgrading my home file server from socket 604 to a 1366. This system would benefit from titanium power supply as it runs 24/7. planning on upgrading to 24 drives. ^.^

I think it's sort of off topic for this.. but maybe not. I have some ideas I've wanted to do for a file server but I'll share with you and others here.

First, see here: http://products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG … 2879-771437.pdf

The reason I point these out, is two reasons. 2.5" laptop hard drives, but.. they're 15mm height but not usable in actual laptops. Secondly, pay close attention to the power management section. The 2TB version is only 1.7 watts maximum during read/write, and the 3 TB is only 2 watts.. both are 0.7 and 0.8 watts in idle mode. Which.. I have spent hours searching google at all of the 2TB and 3TB 2.5" drives available for sale, and these are by far the lowest power I have ever seen for any mechanical drive of this capacity.

And then, consider these: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?i … N82E16817994142 rugged solid steel framed and steel-tray'd hotswap 2.5" bays to fit 4 of these drives in to a single 5.25" bay. Which if you're using a file server, you're most likely on a hardware raid card. Which almost all of those support hot swap over SATA. So having the drives on hot swap would be beneficial to allow you to do real time online rebuilds on drive failure in a few minutes if you keep a spare drive on hand at home. I have these in two of my computers and I love them.

Maybe a little pricey but.. still. If you're after power usage reduction on your 24/7 computers, this is one idea.

Reply 439 of 2072, by gdjacobs

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Jade Falcon wrote:

It certainly will make a difference when compared to a 650w pre 80+ plus psu. And it will run 24/7.
I think the old delta unit in it is like 75% efficient.

Keep that delta unit, though. Those things are like tanks.

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