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Reply 700 of 2070, by Private_Ops

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havli wrote:

Well, there is unwritten rule that everything "Core 2 era" and newer are too modern to be considered retro... so it goes here. 😀 But of course for todays standards even 5870 is far from modern HW.

Yea but unless you're playing modern triple A titles. Anything Core 2 era is perfectly usable still (Though, I would argue you would at least want a quad core).

Same goes for AMD with pretty much any Quad core (Maybe except the very first Phenoms).

Reply 701 of 2070, by nforce4max

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Private_Ops wrote:
havli wrote:

Well, there is unwritten rule that everything "Core 2 era" and newer are too modern to be considered retro... so it goes here. 😀 But of course for todays standards even 5870 is far from modern HW.

Yea but unless you're playing modern triple A titles. Anything Core 2 era is perfectly usable still (Though, I would argue you would at least want a quad core).

Same goes for AMD with pretty much any Quad core (Maybe except the very first Phenoms).

The first Phenoms were not too bad if you had a rarer E model that ran noticeably cooler and clocked higher than the furnaces people are remembering. I still cringe at the thought that 140w stock TDP was ok by AMD for something that unperformed vs stock clocked C2Qs.

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Reply 702 of 2070, by gdjacobs

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The TLB bug was a problem in the first generation hardware. Phenom IIs were fine.

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Reply 703 of 2070, by DracoNihil

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gdjacobs wrote:

The TLB bug was a problem in the first generation hardware. Phenom IIs were fine.

Are you sure? Linux mentions a TLB related bug and I'm on a Phenom II

processor       : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 4
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
stepping : 2
microcode : 0x10000c6
cpu MHz : 2599.954
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 0
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save
bugs : tlb_mmatch fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips : 5199.90
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate

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Reply 705 of 2070, by DracoNihil

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Yeah, I noticed considering nearly all "software" in this day and age maxes out all 4 of my CPU cores doing god knows what.

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Reply 706 of 2070, by Unknown_K

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Yea, I noticed that apps will use all 4 cores in a 4 core system so I just upgraded my main system.

I purchased a Tyan S2927 board and installed 2 x Opteron 8387's ( 4 core 2.8ghz 6mb L3) and have 8 x 4GB DDR2 800mhz RAM coming. MB was $32 shipped, RAM is $22, CPUs were $20 and the 2 AMD copper heatsinks I had. 8 cores and 32GB of RAM will do decent for daily tasks not including gaming (have more modern and not so modern machines for that). I think the board can do 6 core CPUs as well.

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Reply 707 of 2070, by gdjacobs

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DracoNihil wrote:
Are you sure? Linux mentions a TLB related bug and I'm on a Phenom II […]
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gdjacobs wrote:

The TLB bug was a problem in the first generation hardware. Phenom IIs were fine.

Are you sure? Linux mentions a TLB related bug and I'm on a Phenom II

processor       : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 4
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
stepping : 2
microcode : 0x10000c6
cpu MHz : 2599.954
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 0
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save
bugs : tlb_mmatch fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips : 5199.90
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate

Yes, the TLB bug requiring deactivation of the unit was resolved in stepping B3. Phenom II gives you the resolved TLB unit, a die shrink, and some extra L3 cache. It's an upgrade in every way.

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Reply 708 of 2070, by DracoNihil

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If I have this "resolved TLB unit" then why is Linux listing a "tlb_mmatch" as a processor bug? The stepping of my processor is C2.

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Reply 709 of 2070, by squiggly

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gdjacobs wrote:

Yes, the TLB bug requiring deactivation of the unit was resolved in stepping B3. Phenom II gives you the resolved TLB unit, a die shrink, and some extra L3 cache. It's an upgrade in every way.

I am still rocking a Phenom II X6 from around 2010(?) and it is holding up very well with Win10 and a GTX1050Ti. Probably my favorite processor since my Athlon 64 X2. Only complaint is lack of USB3 and proper AHCI Sata ports on the Mobo.

Reply 710 of 2070, by ODwilly

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Might be picking up a GeForce 980 for $100. Not a bad deal

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Reply 711 of 2070, by kithylin

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Proud owner of a Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD7.

This is the 32-phase power, 4-Way-SLI Z77 overclocking beast from gigabyte.

Almost every chip installed in this board is almost guaranteed to at least 5 ghz or more on water, according to all the threads I find on the internet.

In the photo here it is on my test bench in the other room just to test functionality with my spare i3 chip, and my old ebay waterblock. Still waiting on my 2500K to arrive via POST some day when this ebay seller gets off his ass and actually ships it. And buy a proper high performance water block for it later. And see if I can source a full-board block from XSPC, I have a few places line dup I might be able to source one from.

For more information about this board, see here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z77X-UP7-rev-10#ov

Reply 712 of 2070, by vladstamate

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squiggly wrote:
gdjacobs wrote:

Yes, the TLB bug requiring deactivation of the unit was resolved in stepping B3. Phenom II gives you the resolved TLB unit, a die shrink, and some extra L3 cache. It's an upgrade in every way.

I am still rocking a Phenom II X6 from around 2010(?) and it is holding up very well with Win10 and a GTX1050Ti. Probably my favorite processor since my Athlon 64 X2. Only complaint is lack of USB3 and proper AHCI Sata ports on the Mobo.

Ha, I am now using a Phenom II X6 1100T (with a Geforce 770) and man, it is a good machine considering it is 8 years old now. I am also running Win 10 and doing heavy programming on it, and it is fast! Now my Core i7 Haswell was faster true, but that is my VR machine so temporarily I had to downgrade to this Phenom but it does not feel much like a downgrade to be honest.

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Reply 713 of 2070, by ynari

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Bought a few days ago and today fitted one of the Startech expansion slot hard drive hot swap containers

https://www.startech.com/uk/HDD/Mobile-Racks/ … n-Slot~S25SLOTR

As you can see it's a tight fit. It's designed to grip on to an expansion slot, but I've actually put it on a slot beyond the motherboard, as my front bays are completely full of hard drives. Took ages faffing around, but seems to have been recognised first time.

I've stuck a 1TB Firecuda in it for scratch and bare metal operating system installs in my main system. Most of the rest of the drives are hanging off an SAS array, and getting Linux to boot from that without being upset is proving a little challenging.

It also uses a bloody molex for its power supply, so I had to search around for a molex extender. What I really also need is an SATA power to molex.

Yes, the graphics card at the bottom isn't on a PCI-e slot either, it's using one of the (expensive) ThermalTake premium PCI-e extenders so I can use all of my slots and try to fill the 80 PCI-e lanes two Xeons provide. It's a well made extender, and works fine, which it should do for the price..

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Reply 715 of 2070, by Srandista

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Finally went to DDR4 for my main system.

New motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming K5
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New CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
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New RAM: Patriot Viper 4 Series DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) 3000MHz
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Reply 717 of 2070, by Srandista

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For some foreseeable future I will make do with my good ol' Intel MLC 2,5" SSD. But of course, when time will come to replace it or add a new one, NVMe SSD will be way to go, for sure.

And since I have some left over DDR3L modules, H170 DDR3 board and new, never opened G4560, I will probably build some ultra budget build for my parents or something like that.

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Socket A - Chaintech CT-7AIA, AMD Athlon XP 2400+, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9600XT, ESS ES1869F, Win 98

Reply 718 of 2070, by havli

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oeuvre wrote:

Get yourself an NVMe SSD and you'll be set for a while!

Does it really offer some advantage compared to SATA SSD... other than nice big numbers in synthetic benchmarks and zero compatibility with older PCs? 🤣

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Reply 719 of 2070, by uzurpator

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havli wrote:
oeuvre wrote:

Get yourself an NVMe SSD and you'll be set for a while!

Does it really offer some advantage compared to SATA SSD... other than nice big numbers in synthetic benchmarks and zero compatibility with older PCs? 🤣

Depends what you are doing. For an average facebook/youtube/porn/games user, there is very little benefit, however, if you do some heavy productivity tasks ( like 50GB image editing, video editing, massive compilations - generally I/O heavy stuff ) then there is a visible, noticable, measurable boost.

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