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First post, by dreamblaster

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I'm planning to visit the Bonami Computer Museum in april.
I assume I can spend a full day there : https://computermuseum.nl/
Someone on vogons already been there ?

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Reply 1 of 12, by vladstamate

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What I do not understand is why in this day and age museums do not have detailed online presence of their exhibits. No computer museum that I know of (including CHM, Apple in Prague, Personal Computer Museum in Canada, etc) have detailed pictures (or any at all) of their exhibits. Which is why in my collection I am doing exactly the opposite.

Important purposes of a musuem are to catalogue, preserve and educate. For example you might want to know if console XYZ had a european 2.4 version and what games were available for it. It makes so much sense for computer museums to display that. Why do I have to use Wikipedia for that? If you collected it show it. Want money? People will come and see it in person. Especially because computers are tactile things (unlike paintings).

You would think in the age of Internet and VR modern computer museums would have excellent online display, maybe even 3D versions of computers that you can spin around, or support for VR. Don't have money for that? Put a damn picture of all your items.

Unfortunately Bonami Computer Museum suffers from the same sin. I spend my own time and money to make my collection online and I will continue to do so, but it is disheartening to see yet mode big museums just being out there for money and not for the public.

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Reply 2 of 12, by SpectriaForce

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@vladstamate Totally agree with you. The museum is pretty new, but a couple pictures certainly wouldn't hurt. It's a long trip to the north..

What I really don't understand is why so many people in the Netherlands (plan to) start computer musea and after a while realize they horribly fail in it. During the past 15 years or so I've seen and heard of so many people 'ow hey guys I'm going to start a computer museum, come donate all your computers and money' and then you never hear from them again 🤣

If you want to start a computer museum, then do it right, do it as your daily job, from a passion. Also, it takes years before you have the knowledge of all systems that are out there. It's not for the amateurish computer collector.

Reply 3 of 12, by dreamblaster

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SpectriaForce wrote:

@vladstamate Totally agree with you. The museum is pretty new, but a couple pictures certainly wouldn't hurt. It's a long trip to the north..

Well I go to bonami in april, will post a report here 😀

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Reply 4 of 12, by sf78

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There is this Finnish guy who has his own "museum" (aka private collection) that also exhibits items from time to time in different venues. However, the whole collection is available online with pictures and descriptions. You can easily browse through Google Translate even though the layout kinda gets funky on some pages:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=aut … t-text=&act=url

Reply 5 of 12, by Auzner

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vladstamate wrote:

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Huge museum both online and the exhibits.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/search/

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Reply 6 of 12, by Dominus

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Go to Zoetermer's National Videogame museum https://www.nationaalvideogamemuseum.nl

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Reply 7 of 12, by vladstamate

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Dominus wrote:

Go to Zoetermer's National Videogame museum https://www.nationaalvideogamemuseum.nl

(Just in case this was a reply to my rant. If not, well my point still stands 😀 ) I've looked around the site and while it is pretty I have not seen a proper catalogue.

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Huge museum both online and the exhibits.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/search/

No, CHM also does not do it properly either. I've visited it a few times as I used to live in the area. Their online catalog is terrible. Small pictures (500x315 are you kidding me?) and virtually no descriptions. I've seen better collections' websites from member of this forum. CHM as a large organization with good funding should do well better.

http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633606

As THE museum of computer science with the most complete collection out there, they really sell themselves short. They could do (and should do) a lot more.

My point is, if you are going to have a museum, in this day and age, in 2018, they all fail at anything but physical displays.

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Reply 8 of 12, by Dominus

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It's because these are all little museums without funding time etc...

I saw pictures of the museum on Facebook and sold the guy a game as well 😉

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Reply 9 of 12, by Auzner

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But they are catalogued. I'm not a historian or a researcher, but that does have a use to obtain more resources from the museum.
Computer history itself is not a very well covered area. Most of the literature is embellished fairy tales about Steve Jobs and not actual history.
Wikipedia is spoiling us with multi paged write ups and 20MP photos but they still have some online info 😀
http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/per … omputers/17/298

Reply 10 of 12, by dreamblaster

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dreamblaster wrote:

Well I go to bonami in april, will post a report here 😀

I went to Bonami Computer Museum on tuesday april 10th.
I arrived at 10h30 and stayed until it closed at 17h00.
They have a huge collection, and a lot of playable machines.
Friendly staff and very few visitors (I'v seen maybe 5 other visitors in whole day)
I took a lot of photo's (still need to sort them out).
Well worth a visit !

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Reply 11 of 12, by Dominus

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Great!

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Reply 12 of 12, by dreamblaster

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I added some of the photos to an imgur album -- this gives an idea of the place : https://imgur.com/a/ZdlNF
What I enjoyed the most is trying out these old home computers, consoles and arcade games.

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