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Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Firtasik » 2018-3-14 @ 10:47

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby 386SX » 2018-3-15 @ 19:53

Firtasik wrote:https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/

Happy Pi Day! :happy:

I'm not so happy cause I bought an older revision lately.. :D

Anyway interesting upgrade! The metal heatsink it's great, maybe I'd have hoped for a 1,5ghz or a bit more frequency target.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby keenmaster486 » 2018-3-15 @ 22:07

I remember when the very first Raspberry Pi came out way back in 2012, six years ago? I guess it wasn't that long ago, dang. I drooled over it until I finally got one, and I felt like my dad probably felt when he got his first Commodore 64 back in the 80's.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Firtasik » 2018-3-15 @ 22:41

RPi 1 Model B+ was released in June 2014 and I bought it two months later. Out of the blue, RPi 2 was released in February 2015. I felt a bit cheated. 8-o

Disappointing thing about Pi 3 Model B+:

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Weebob » 2018-3-15 @ 23:41

Excellent, i'll pick one up so it can live in a box with the other seven I have....

Joking apart I built this not so long ago...
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Also have one in a NesPI case, which is awesome, and a couple running motioneyeOS for basic home security cams.

I do love my Pi's, that power draw does scare me a little...
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby leileilol » 2018-3-16 @ 00:06

I wouldn't worry too much about the changes. Maybe unless I really use bluetooth because the Pi3B's bluetooth suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

Putting a variant of RetroPie on the thing then gloating in every mini-console article is overrated though. There's got to be a term for those....
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Weebob » 2018-3-16 @ 00:19

leileilol wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about the changes. Maybe unless I really use bluetooth because the Pi3B's bluetooth suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

Putting a variant of RetroPie on the thing then gloating in every mini-console article is overrated though. There's got to be a term for those....


Agree with you there, people are rabid for proving that odd point. Sure it can do some things the nes & snes mini cant but Nintendo really knocked out of the park on the build of those and that GUI is awesome. Shame about the availability is some places, this is most probably why people feel they need to prove something...

I get about two metres away from my Pi3 before losing bluetooth, usb dongle it is then...
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby leileilol » 2018-3-16 @ 01:22

Yeah there's nothing like the "Clover" front-end currently. That's the 'just works' elegance at its finest along with the good presentation, and i'd like to see the same thing applied beyond emulation, like say a htpc-focused window manager....
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby BloodyCactus » 2018-3-16 @ 01:32

this is just a factory overclock, if you have an older pi3b you can do the exact same thing. wifi antenna is probably biggest difference. the rest is smoke and mirrors.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby 386SX » 2018-3-16 @ 12:25

I imagine that the power requirements are also bigger for the Gigabit Ethernet, isn't it? Maybe for this refresh update revision they could try to add 512MB of ram and to save costs without the wireless module that it's already not expensive to buy.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby BloodyCactus » 2018-3-16 @ 13:00

eh. there is nothing really gigabit about it. its still going through the usb 2.0 chip, along with everything else, its all shared bandwidth on a single bus. disk, io, usb ports, network etc.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby bjwil1991 » 2018-3-16 @ 15:17

Won't be available in the states until later on, which could be months... Ugh.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby 386SX » 2018-3-16 @ 17:21

BloodyCactus wrote:eh. there is nothing really gigabit about it. its still going through the usb 2.0 chip, along with everything else, its all shared bandwidth on a single bus. disk, io, usb ports, network etc.

I understand it. I read also something about a change in the power regulator if I'm correct, maybe the processor is a newer better revision to mantain that clock and I prefer that metal static solution to a custom heatsink that beside a thermal tape there's always the risk it could short something on the board and also from the bga ram experience on the pc I'll never attach anything to those fragile solderings.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby IAmJefferson » 2018-3-18 @ 07:40

Firtasik wrote:Disappointing thing about Pi 3 Model B+:

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Note that the faster ARM CPU is responsible for that power draw.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Bandock » 2018-3-20 @ 08:33

I was originally interested in the NES Classic back in late 2016. However, those suckers were almost never in stock since day 1. Instead, I went with a Raspberry Pi 3 for RetroPie and can't be anymore happier. Plus, it gave me a very nice opportunity to port some of my projects to such a device.

Raspbian Stretch is a bit broken for graphics at the moment (at least with SDL 2.0). Probably why the next RetroPie hasn't come out officially yet. Due to the new drivers on Stretch; it's nice to finally have windowed SDL 2.0 applications. Unfortunately, you get distorted graphics that tend to get worse each thing you render.

Anyone interested in RetroPie should stick with Raspbian Jessie for now. If you have to, flash yourself an image if you can.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2018-3-20 @ 15:42

Fast enough for, say, NES emulator?
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Weebob » 2018-3-20 @ 15:50

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Fast enough for, say, NES emulator?


Yep, the first pi's were.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2018-3-20 @ 16:01

Weebob wrote:
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Fast enough for, say, NES emulator?


Yep, the first pi's were.

I see.

Now, if only it was fast enough to be a sound font appliance... Or is it?
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby bjwil1991 » 2018-3-20 @ 16:25

Are you talking about the MIDI Sound Font? I'm planning on making a Roland MT-32/CM-32L (Munt) for my Raspberry Pi system and hook it up to my Packard Bell Pack-Mate 28 Plus that'll hook up to my Roland MT-32 MIDI Thru port, or just to the MPU-401 card I have.
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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is out

Postby leileilol » 2018-3-20 @ 22:48

RetroPie/EmulationStation/RecalBox have been terrible in my experience and I wouldn't be content with them to turn a Pi into a NES Mini/SNES Classic substitute.

Nintendo's got the advantage to.....produce contrtollers that don't suck and frontends that don't brick. :)


I think stretch fixed the graphics driver by now. at least it's working on my stretch. I know they regressed it a few months ago
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