TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:27:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:21:

Hokay, why do Rendition Verite cards seem to be beating Banshees and headed into Voodoo3 territory ????

Because the good V2200 ones are stupidly rare...only ones I can find are 4mb versions, still waiting on a 8mb v2200

Were you looking the past year or recently became interested? I also thought they were tough to come by, but it seems because I wanted one, then I couldn't find one. Now that I have one, I've seen perhaps 5 for sale on eBay over the last 8 months, and I wasn't actually looking. Two just sold in the past month. I'm sure another will turn up sooner or later.

cyclone3d wrote on 2023-03-06, 22:01:

Heh, I spent like $25 on the Cyrix 5x86 120 chips I have.

Sad thing is, I think one of them may have half-died. Nedd to test it in another board.

The 133 is the one that is super hard to find. Had a chance to get one but hesitated a few minutes too long and somebody else bought it.

How much did it sell for? What was the condition of the chip? Best value for a Cyrix 5x86-133/4x is for non-speed marked units, often found in Evergreen upgrade kits.

feipoa wrote on 2023-03-06, 23:54:

cyclone3d wrote on 2023-03-06, 22:01:

Heh, I spent like $25 on the Cyrix 5x86 120 chips I have.

Sad thing is, I think one of them may have half-died. Nedd to test it in another board.

The 133 is the one that is super hard to find. Had a chance to get one but hesitated a few minutes too long and somebody else bought it.

How much did it sell for? What was the condition of the chip? Best value for a Cyrix 5x86-133/4x is for non-speed marked units, often found in Evergreen upgrade kits.

It was sold in a lot with some other chips. The listing didn't specifically state what chips were there but the pictures were good.
The whole lot was $100 BIN.

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:27:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:21:

Hokay, why do Rendition Verite cards seem to be beating Banshees and headed into Voodoo3 territory ????

Because the good V2200 ones are stupidly rare...only ones I can find are 4mb versions, still waiting on a 8mb v2200

I do have an 8mb QDI Vision V2200 AGP (datecode 1999 or so) but I do warn you its 2D picture quality is nothing stellar.. be careful what you wish for 😉

subhuman@xgtx wrote on 2023-03-07, 02:38:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:27:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:21:

Hokay, why do Rendition Verite cards seem to be beating Banshees and headed into Voodoo3 territory ????

Because the good V2200 ones are stupidly rare...only ones I can find are 4mb versions, still waiting on a 8mb v2200

I do have an 8mb QDI Vision V2200 AGP (datecode 1999 or so) but I do warn you its 2D picture quality is nothing stellar.. be careful what you wish for 😉

I don't have a V2200 in the collection, so really just want it for that 😜

As for image quality ....there were a lot of cards in that era that had horrible image quality ...and a few were very well known for having that classic Vaseline smudged screen look to them 🤣 its all part of the charm really.

This is another listing I was watching. Not nearly as surprising as the Cyrix 5x86-120 sale price.
AMD K5-PR200 sells for $837 USD

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374539224538

That is insane.

feipoa wrote on 2023-03-08, 03:08:

This is another listing I was watching. Not nearly as surprising as the Cyrix 5x86-120 sale price. AMD K5-PR200 sells for $837 U […]
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This is another listing I was watching. Not nearly as surprising as the Cyrix 5x86-120 sale price.
AMD K5-PR200 sells for $837 USD

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374539224538
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I was watching that one too, I knew it was gonna get pretty insane but not quite that crazy 🤣

cyclone3d wrote on 2023-03-08, 03:09:

That is insane.

has to be something else going on here surely!? or maybe my disbelief is just out of touch with "rare" cpu collectors...

gerry wrote on 2023-03-08, 21:06:

has to be something else going on here surely!? or maybe my disbelief is just out of touch with "rare" cpu collectors...

Yes, there certainly is. It's called "too much money on your hands" and "greed knows no bounds."

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-07, 03:20:

subhuman@xgtx wrote on 2023-03-07, 02:38:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-06, 06:27:

Because the good V2200 ones are stupidly rare...only ones I can find are 4mb versions, still waiting on a 8mb v2200

I do have an 8mb QDI Vision V2200 AGP (datecode 1999 or so) but I do warn you its 2D picture quality is nothing stellar.. be careful what you wish for 😉

I don't have a V2200 in the collection, so really just want it for that 😜

As for image quality ....there were a lot of cards in that era that had horrible image quality ...and a few were very well known for having that classic Vaseline smudged screen look to them 🤣 its all part of the charm really.

I've only got one rendition verite card , its a V2200 spider 4mb , I've seen 2100 and 2200s pop up from time to time for not crazy sums even 8mb 2200s but that was a while back so you might be able to snag one if you keep your eyes out. Its more the v1000s that seem to fetch alot since I guess people want the og ones.

I guess it makes sense that they'd be climbing in price , they aren't super common and they didn't seem super popular back in the day. In my experience it's an okay card but the drivers seemed a bit buggy but overall seemed pretty competent as a card , and hey I guess it was the only way to have 3d acceleration in dosquake.

AppleSauce wrote on 2023-03-09, 04:04:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-07, 03:20:

subhuman@xgtx wrote on 2023-03-07, 02:38:

I do have an 8mb QDI Vision V2200 AGP (datecode 1999 or so) but I do warn you its 2D picture quality is nothing stellar.. be careful what you wish for 😉

I don't have a V2200 in the collection, so really just want it for that 😜

As for image quality ....there were a lot of cards in that era that had horrible image quality ...and a few were very well known for having that classic Vaseline smudged screen look to them 🤣 its all part of the charm really.

I've only got one rendition verite card , its a V2200 spider 4mb , I've seen 2100 and 2200s pop up from time to time for not crazy sums even 8mb 2200s but that was a while back so you might be able to snag one if you keep your eyes out. Its more the v1000s that seem to fetch alot since I guess people want the og ones.

I guess it makes sense that they'd be climbing in price , they aren't super common and they didn't seem super popular back in the day. In my experience it's an okay card but the drivers seemed a bit buggy but overall seemed pretty competent as a card , and hey I guess it was the only way to have 3d acceleration in dosquake.

IIRC I do have a 8mb Diamond V2100 which could be BIOS patched to be a 2200, I think Diamond themselves made the BIOS patch so that might be the route I take. The 8 Mb V2200 cards are stupidly rare.

Yah I got a diamond 2100, but can't remember RAM right now. Probably 4MB... kinda lives in a blind spot where it's not quite the thing for anything I'm doing this month, but someday.... maybe I'll stick it one of the 233MMX boxes.

edit: I checked it's 4MB

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-09, 04:49:

Yah I got a diamond 2100, but can't remember RAM right now. Probably 4MB... kinda lives in a blind spot where it's not quite the thing for anything I'm doing this month, but someday.... maybe I'll stick it one of the 233MMX boxes.

Pretty sure mine is a PCI version now that I think about it . .makes it even more useful to me over an AGP version.

zyzzle wrote on 2023-03-09, 02:46:

gerry wrote on 2023-03-08, 21:06:

has to be something else going on here surely!? or maybe my disbelief is just out of touch with "rare" cpu collectors...

Yes, there certainly is. It's called "too much money on your hands" and "greed knows no bounds."

+ the ebay bubble.

It's no coincidence that every single Ridiculous Price Item is based at that one limited, centralized marketplace.

Whose traders operate in their own isolated e-realm, where Elite Wallets Flavor-of-the-Week flits from one niche retro component to the next like a Parisian fashionista.

Shreddoc wrote on 2023-03-09, 08:54:

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zyzzle wrote on 2023-03-09, 02:46:

gerry wrote on 2023-03-08, 21:06:

has to be something else going on here surely!? or maybe my disbelief is just out of touch with "rare" cpu collectors...

Yes, there certainly is. It's called "too much money on your hands" and "greed knows no bounds."

+ the ebay bubble.

It's no coincidence that every single Ridiculous Price Item is based at that one limited, centralized marketplace.

Whose traders operate in their own isolated e-realm, where Elite Wallets Flavor-of-the-Week flits from one niche retro component to the next like a Parisian fashionista.

who has that money to throw away though, do we think it's regular but, shall we say, very keen collectors for whom hundreds of dollars is painful to part with, or wealthy folk who just snap things up speculatively - like happened in some video game areas

gerry wrote on 2023-03-09, 09:44:

Shreddoc wrote on 2023-03-09, 08:54:

+ the ebay bubble. […]
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zyzzle wrote on 2023-03-09, 02:46:

Yes, there certainly is. It's called "too much money on your hands" and "greed knows no bounds."

+ the ebay bubble.

It's no coincidence that every single Ridiculous Price Item is based at that one limited, centralized marketplace.

Whose traders operate in their own isolated e-realm, where Elite Wallets Flavor-of-the-Week flits from one niche retro component to the next like a Parisian fashionista.

who has that money to throw away though

A fair proportion of today's very-highly-paid middle and senior IT people grew up with 80's or 90's PCs as a hobby. How many such people making >250k/year, in the world? A hypothetical 'few thousand' such well-off enthusiasts could easily, between them, suck up ebay's less-common offerings. A relatively tiny* pool of deep-pocketed competition, continually playing off against each other.

*globally speaking

As genX and older millennial collectors get further into their career paths, salaries tend to increase, thus more liquid cash. Those in the IT field tend to be paid well, so I doubt prices for these rare computer parts will be decreasing. However, I have noticed prices for less rare, but still old, computer parts becoming stagnant. As for me, inflation has been hitting my family pretty hard and my hobby purchasing has dropped to almost zero compared to 3 years ago. Once our fixed mortgage term comes due and our interest rate jumps to, probably 9% in 2025, I may have to start selling some of my less used parts to get by. The news mentions that more rate increases are coming this year.

Kind of in the software realm, but a set of floppies recently went for nearly 1.5K USD.
http://web.archive.org/web/20230313070726/htt … tm/134477128866

Would like to hope they don't wind up locked away to rot.

yourepicfailure wrote on 2023-03-13, 07:08:

Kind of in the software realm, but a set of floppies recently went for nearly 1.5K USD.
http://web.archive.org/web/20230313070726/htt … tm/134477128866

Would like to hope they don't wind up locked away to rot.

Seeing as they may have been old beta versions of early windows and other software I can understand them going for a stupid amount, just from a historical point they would be worth archiving so I also hope they went to someone willing to archive them and share their contents.