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First post, by Kerr Avon

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Are there any video games whose copyright has expired, so anyone can legally copy them? I don't mean games released as freeware, nor commercial games whose authors have later re-released as freeware, but commercial games whose copyright has expired due to the passage of time?

I really doubt it, as games haven't been around long enough for that as far as I know. Well, maybe the very old games, such as Bertie the Brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertie_the_Brain, a noughts and crosses (tic tac toe) game from 1950, might be out of copyright now (or maybe not, given how, thanks (allegedly) to Disney, copyright might soon be raised to be more than a century) but I wouldn't count that personally as it's not just software but also comes with built in hardware. I mean games that are just supplied as software (albeit on a cartridge, or CD rom, or cassette, etc) and are used on a standalone machine. I'd say that video games that were written for university/work mainframes would qualify by my criteria, since the game itself was made to run on the hardware, rather than the hardware being built around the game.

And if no game has yet had it's copyright expired, then when will this happen (assuming the copyright length isn't extended again)?

On a tangent, what's the copyright situation with films (movies)? What's the latest year a film can, by this time (2018) be considered out of copyright? 1928? 1938? Are all the silent films now out of copyright?

Reply 2 of 8, by vladstamate

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leileilol wrote:

Video games (as we know it) hasn't even existed for at least 75 years yet, so no.

Yup:

The term of copyright for video games is no different than those of other media in the United States. Most popular video games are works of corporate authorship and have copyrights that will expire 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever expires first.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-does-a-video-g … -copyright-last

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Reply 3 of 8, by Stiletto

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Kerr Avon wrote:

On a tangent, what's the copyright situation with films (movies)? What's the latest year a film can, by this time (2018) be considered out of copyright? 1928? 1938? Are all the silent films now out of copyright?

This is non-definitive, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_i … e_United_States

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Reply 5 of 8, by Dominus

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Can you back that up? And even if that is legally true, they must have crossed into public domain in some other way and not because the copyright expired.

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Reply 6 of 8, by dr_st

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At least in the US jurisdiction, copyrights will never expire. They will keep on getting extended because there are powerful media corporations (Disney, Sony, etc.) with a vested interest in preserving their lucrative monopolies (to borrow a phrase for Richard Stallman), and currently their only way of doing so is by extending the copyright which affects all works.

The two ways in this it can change if if someone restructures copyright law from scratch, or if these media monopolies all simultaneously die out and stop pushing for extensions; neither seems very likely.

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Reply 7 of 8, by Stiletto

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thepirategamerboy12 wrote:

I'm pretty sure every official Vectrex game is in the public domain, and that's why Vectrex multicarts are perfectly legal to make.

as long as it is for your personal use and not for resale?
http://mess.redump.net/freely_available_systems#vectrex
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.vec … oQ/k4KTDCxpgjIJ

It's still not to be considered "public domain", more like a non-commercial usage license.

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Reply 8 of 8, by Kerr Avon

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Thanks for the very interesting information, everyone. That Wikipedia list is very depressing, but given what Vlastamate said about the length of copyright, my hopes for classic films such as the best of Laurel and Hardy, Will Hay, Harold Lloyd, Charlie Chaplin, etc, becoming public domain simply because they were old, were probably stupid anyway, since I know how greedy big corporations can be.