SPBHM wrote:

kind of curious to see how the windows 10 compatibility projects will evolve, if they had OpenGL working it would be kind of fun […]
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kind of curious to see how the windows 10 compatibility projects will evolve, if they had OpenGL working it would be kind of fun,

https://www.inpact-hardware.com/article/1124/ … -microsd-et-usb
this person tested CPUmark99 on windows 10 (x86 on arm emulation) on the pi3 and it scored 45 points on CPUmark99, I think this is like a p3 500 or something
the 4 should be way faster.

but realistically because of shipping costs and tariffs it becomes very expensive for me to import a raspberry pi, the stuff from aliexpress ends up a lot cheaper.

I think around the Athlon XP era alot of DOSBox speed complaints died down but it was really when the Core 2 came out that most of them went away. So don't throw away your desktops just yet.

Scali wrote:

There's plenty to choose from, such as:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33044650669.h … sAbTest=ae803_4

That's a good price for a Cortex A53 based STB with 4gb RAM, similar to offerings like the Rock64 from Radxa. However, the CPU architecture is vastly inferior to the SoC on the Pi 4 and you'll probably have less flexibility due to inferior vendor support.

In fact, the quad A72 cores on the Pi 4 should out perform everything but RK3399 based SoCs in other sub 100 USD single board computers (at a significantly lower price). Information on relative GPU performance is scant, although considering the geriatric age of the Mali Utgard and PowerVR cores the budget SoCs from RK and Allwinner have, I wouldn't be surprised if performance suffered there as well.

If RAM is the driving parameter for your application, then maybe you can save a bit of cash going with a different board. On balance, though, I think the Pi 4 will compare favourably in both performance and value with it's competition.

See this link for a capture of the SBC product space as of this spring:
http://linuxgizmos.com/catalog-of-125-open-sp … -hacker-boards/

Note that the stock Pi 4 remains an inferior solution for audio compared to some others due to the choice of a PWM output circuit instead of a PCM DAC (or PWM with a high order LPF at half the Nyquist).

I get excited when a new Pi is released even though all I do is mess around with it as a toy. I have a 1B+ and a 3B, the 3B is really plenty powerful for exploring Linux and the odd bit of retropi. Musn't buy......

Almoststew1990 wrote:

I get excited when a new Pi is released even though all I do is mess around with it as a toy. I have a 1B+ and a 3B, the 3B is really plenty powerful for exploring Linux and the odd bit of retropi. Musn't buy......

Same here.. I've got a couple beagle-something-or-other bones ziplocked away with their cables and power-supplies, and I fear my Pi3b will have a similar fate if/when I upgrade to the 4. As I've gotten older, I weigh the waste/loss of value far greater than I used to; so I'm more calculating when I move to the latest and greatest.

None the less, the last ~5 years have been exciting times with the Pi - performance jumps are similar to the 90s in PCs, and I feel some of that same excitement I had back then. It's also fantastic the hardware is tiny and doesn't cost much - and the stability of Linux well beyond what Microsoft offered in the 90s.

Almoststew1990 wrote:

I get excited when a new Pi is released even though all I do is mess around with it as a toy. I have a 1B+ and a 3B, the 3B is really plenty powerful for exploring Linux and the odd bit of retropi. Musn't buy......

I have 3 3Bs to play with but the H265 decoding will probably get me to buy one to replace my new 3B Librelec box nonetheless. The other two are currently in use as a hidden wifi nanny-cam and a MUNT-Pi. I would probably end up bringing the spare 3B to work and plugging it into my 30" workstation monitor to play retro games in the afterhours.. 🤣

I have a 1B+, 2B, 3B, and 3B+ in my house.

bjwil1991 wrote:

I have a 1B+, 2B, 3B, and 3B+ in my house.

So you have no excuse, you MUST get the Pi 4 to complete the set.

Yeah, if bills didn't take my paycheck.

I would like to see a Pi Zero replacement. I have a few running off solar which would benefit from the newer CPU fab.

bjwil1991 wrote:

I have a 1B+, 2B, 3B, and 3B+ in my house.

Scali's right on that! You'll have it all after you get a Pi 4 😀
Anyway, it's great to see that Raspberry finally released a new generation of their line of mini servers (or tiny motherboard-like objects that most people use as servers). They were stuck on number 3 for quite a long time now.

Raspberry Pi 4 Firmware Update Tested: Less Heat, Same Speeds:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-p … sted,39791.html

It's interesting what speed numbers Raspberry 4B has in DOSBox.
(The results of other models can be interesting also.)
The way to compile DOSBox with dynrec support.
How to measure the speed is there.

Be sure, there was no throttling. Make better cooling if there is it.
Report the DOSBox / SVN build version used.

JonathonWyble wrote on 2019-07-02, 23:37:

Scali's right on that! You'll have it all after you get a Pi 4 😀
Anyway, it's great to see that Raspberry finally released a new generation of their line of mini servers (or tiny motherboard-like objects that most people use as servers). They were stuck on number 3 for quite a long time now.

Except everyone needs the Pi CoM, the A+ boards, and the Zero in play. No excuses!

Pi4 is definitely a welcome addition to the SBC offerings. Performance is really quite good now, and you don't have the garbage Linux driver situation that plagues the Allwinner and Rockchip ecosystems (Android notwithstanding).

I haven't picked one up yet, my 3B+ is still perfectly adequate for my use case, but more choice is always a good thing!

A birthday gift: 2GB Raspberry Pi 4 now only $35