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First post, by athlon-power

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Let me preface this with two things:

A) Even though this is Milliways, I know this might not be the place for this. I don't have social media of any kind because I despise it, and this is the only community I'm really a part of, so that's why this ended up here. If this isn't the right place, feel free to delete this and I will take no offence.

B) I know many people have it much worse than I do, this is just my personal experience at the moment, so take this with a grain of salt.

Now that I'm through that, I just wanted to get a few things off of my chest. I both fear that I will live in the past for the rest of my life, but I'm also very comfortable with it at the same time. I fear it because I will miss many new experiences, and for a lot of people stagnation is like a pre-death. At the same time, my past seemed so much better than life now. I know a lot of that can be attributed to it being my childhood, where people are, if they're lucky, more likely to be clueless and happy.

A lot of people were also there that are no longer here. My dad, and his parents are gone. I don't really have any contact with extended family on either side, so the last Parliers (from my particular branch, that I know) alive are myself and my half-brother. I was very close to my paternal grandmother, and while my paternal grandfather, not to speak ill of the dead, rest his poor soul, was kind of a prick, and we were never close, it's still a shame that he's gone. Things were never objectively amazing in my childhood, my dad had Primary Progrssive MS and was diagnosed right after I was born, and by the time I remember he was walking on a cane. His brain became ate up enough with lesions that it changed his personality, and he became a generally irritable and angry man. As a result my parents would get into screaming matches every day unless my half-brother was there (his mom and my dad had divorced and he visited on weekends every two weeks), and while that was probably a bit rough on me, I can't even remember 99% of their fights.

Combine that with the fact that I was always up at my paternal grandmother's when I could be (we lived on their property in Montezuma, NC, just outside of Newland), and it gives the past a bit of a rosy tint. I should mention she had a big old Gateway PC that ran Win2k. Probably a cheap PIII or something similar. My mom and dad divorced when I was 8, I moved to Elizabethton, TN, and 6 months later my paternal grandmother died of lung cancer, which I should mention, was caused by second-hand smoking. My paternal grandfather, my dad and my mom all smoked like there was no tomorrow. I consider this the turning point of my life.

After that, my dad was okay for a few years, but the MS quickly ate him up enough to where he couldn't take care of himself as easily. He moved in with my paternal grandfather, and my childhood home was destroyed. I barely took anything of any real value because I was 12 or 13 and stupid. A year later my paternal grandfather died, and my dad had to go into an assisted living home. From there, he got bad enough to where they couldn't take care of him, and he was sent to a nursing home. He went from a cane to a wheelchair, and from a wheelchair to bedridden. My father was very big into computers in his heyday, before I was born, but still was a little before the divorce. He was a big linux head, and wrote his own kernels, fun fact.

That's a big reason I'm so into old computers. Reliving that Win2k experience, using the giant old beige tower, it's just been combined with gaming, and often times, games that my dad played (Half-Life and DOOM being two examples). I try to live up to his example with computer work- he was never mentally around enough to be proud of me by the time I really knew what I was doing. Some days were better than others. I should've visited him more, but I couldn't bear seeing him even worse than the last time I had seen him. He was in Banner Elk, which was a 45min-1hr drive from Elizabethton, so a visit had to be planned in advance. I found myself planning to visit, and often times cancelling. It's not that I didn't love him- I just couldn't deal with his declining condition. I knew he was dying. For about a year before he died, I was preparing myself, which is another reason I wasn't visiting him often.

I saw him three days before he died, and he actually looked better than the last visit. He was on hospice at that point. Dad died on Feburary 2nd, 2020 of MS related complications.

My mom had married a woman, Kathy, in 2012. She never cut it as a second parent for many reasons. They divorced shortly after dad died, and leaving out a lot of details, they hadn't been living together for about 5 years. Recently, around fall of 2020, she met another woman, Jennifer, and it looked like it might be okay. Long story short, Jennifer and I don't get along, and now I've moved out and am living with a roommate. I felt like I'd be kicked out for about three weeks, which was more my fault, to be fair, and the stress started me smoking.

I don't care anymore. I'm 19 and feel ancient- my story ended when I was eight. I'm far out beyond my expiration date, and I just don't care. I am a smoker now, and I find that I don't care what happens when I'm older. I know what they do to you- but I just don't care. My roommate smokes, so I don't feel bad about that- and I'm going to end up being alone for the rest of my life, so nobody else to worry about. I've been struggling with living in the past for years, and for about two or three I was finally moving forwards, looking forward to what life might still have to offer, but I feel that my mother's been taken from me- and while that's a childish line of thought, it's true. I have a flip phone, I bought a PlayStation 2, the console in our house when mom and dad were still together, and am playing games that were often played at that time on it- I sold the graphics card in my ~US$1,800 gaming rig I had spent a year and a half working on and upgrading, and threw the rest away. I'm typing this on my dad's last laptop.

I can't stand this future, and I'm done trying to do so. I'm going to grasp at the last few straws of the past that are left, as they actively dwindle, until I die. I am fueled mostly by anger towards the new world, and fondness for the old world. I feel like if I cling on to what was, I'm making some sort of statement. A cry out to deaf ears that this world isn't mine, it never was, and it never will be, and that I don't belong here, and I never did.

Whoever decides to sit down and read this, thank you. I'm not looking for sympathy or advice as much as I am just trying to get this off of my chest, and for a group of people who's focus is on the technology of the past and working with nostalgic things, I thought this would be a stretch, but that it would fit.

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Fixing an error- also I wanted to clarify that I'm not homophobic in any way, I'm bi myself. The problem was the people, not the gender. Maybe that didn't need to be said but I felt that it needed to be put out there.

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Reply 1 of 4, by chinny22

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I'm a happy positive guy, my secret? be honest with your self.
If the new world annoys you and your more happy living in the past then as you say yourself it's not hurting anyone else so nothing wrong with that keep doing what makes you happy.
and its not as if your the only one, this guy has taken it to completely other level.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13 … de-loo-all.html

You say your not after advice so not going to give you any (not that I'm qualified anyway) but to me it sounds like overall your making a good decisions finding that makes you happy and doing that rather then living to others expectations

Reply 2 of 4, by gerry

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that's a tough thing to share, I hope that sharing it somehow helps, gets thoughts in order. anything anyone here or online says is to be taken with a little healthy skepticism, we/they cannot know enough to really add huge amounts of value but it might be interesting for you nevertheless. You'd probably benefit from talking with a neutral person, possibly a therapist can help if that seems like a good option, i mean if you feel depressed about things. it works for lots of folk.

a lot of your interest in this hobby seems to be on trying to re-create part of the environment around you the last time you felt 'safe' or 'at home'. i think lots people into collecting things from the past have that to some extent. It's no bad thing, until it starts to stop you going forward in life - then it's damaging more than its comforting

oddly enough mixing socially with people into old tech would make the hobby about the past into something that is of the present too, lots of people love all those meet ups and so on. in fact socialising always puts you in the 'now' and often gets the future looking a bit better too

anyway, all the best to you

Reply 3 of 4, by Jo22

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I read it, too. I wished I could help, but I'm not completely stable myself and also don't know how to do so. 🙁
All I can say is that you're not alone. And I think writing things down was the right thing to do.
You've got my sympathy, also. In the positive way (as in: I can partially relate to your situation, feelings) - not just, um, the "commiseration" way.
Not sure if that makes any sense. English is not my native language and I had to use some dictionaries..
All I can say is that life is worth living. There are days so dark that you think the sun will never shine again,
but then ocassionally things brighten up without a warning. I know this sounds like some sort of psycho babble, but it's true.
For example, -I don't mean to play your problems down nor put the focus on me, since this is your thread, so I get to the point-, I had to care for my grandma for several years..
Long story short - We went through the full program. mobility handicap, bedridden, personal hygiene, dementia, pass away.
These were dark times. But there also were bright moments and moments of joy.
What I want to say : Don't give up. Fight yourself back into life! Find friends. You're worth it.

gerry wrote on 2021-02-05, 10:44:

that's a tough thing to share, I hope that sharing it somehow helps, gets thoughts in order. anything anyone here or online says is to be taken with a little healthy skepticism, we/they cannot know enough to really add huge amounts of value but it might be interesting for you nevertheless. You'd probably benefit from talking with a neutral person, possibly a therapist can help if that seems like a good option, i mean if you feel depressed about things. it works for lots of folk.

Okay, this may sound very cheesy, but..
Sometimes, a friend (-> though not a self-destructive, false friend) -or someone that sincerely listens and cares about you- "is all it needs" (so to say).
Such a person can help tremendously to overcome feelings of betrayal and loss (he/she can be a support).
If no such person is around (or makes things even worse) or if the pain persists, a therapist is a good alternative.
Having both would be ideal, I guess. So you can visit the therapist together, which makes things more comfortable.
Personally, I was in theraphy myself in the past (depression, fear ..).
I think that's nothing to be ashamed of anymore (as long as you do not "shout it from the rooftops" ).
In these Corona days, many people are in therapy.

Edit : Visiting the therapist also has the advantage that you may get a medicine which assist you in moments of fear, depression (ta-fil/-vor, escitalopram etc).
The first two, in a low dose, may also brighten things up a bit.
Anyway, that's all I can say (giving hints). Such things are highly individual, after all. What's good for one person, might have no effect for another. @everyone @athlon-power Take care! 🙂

gerry wrote on 2021-02-05, 10:44:

a lot of your interest in this hobby seems to be on trying to re-create part of the environment around you the last time you felt 'safe' or 'at home'. i think lots people into collecting things from the past have that to some extent. It's no bad thing, until it starts to stop you going forward in life - then it's damaging more than its comforting

I second that. I often play my old Nintendo games (NES) from my childhood whenever I feel very bad (real console/crt).
It reminds me of the old days when my grandma was still there and when my life was carefree.
That helps a lot. It's as if a burden drops off my heart. Concentration is also better afterwards.

gerry wrote on 2021-02-05, 10:44:

oddly enough mixing socially with people into old tech would make the hobby about the past into something that is of the present too, lots of people love all those meet ups and so on. in fact socialising always puts you in the 'now' and often gets the future looking a bit better too

Yes, I think that's also true. Meeting with such persons can really cheer you up. They likely have similar heartaches, after all.

Edit: "You" as in the op, someone, everyone.

"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 4 of 4, by athlon-power

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Thank you all. I'm not sure what to say except thank you, really. Watching somebody decline slowly like that, at least for me, was like dealing with somebody dying twice. Any diseases or conditions that cause that are evil, in my eyes- I just can't wrap my head around it.

Life is worth living for me now because there's so much of the past that's still there- and I feel like I carry one of the last torches of the past, so I have a responsibility to let it live as long as I do until I naturally join my family on Beech Mountain. Like you guys have said, it helps to have other people into this hobby and older things in general.

I'm glad therapy works well for a lot of people- I'm just too stubborn to listen to their advice, the one long(ish) term terapist I had didn't seem to understand and gave gererally generic advice, maybe it wasn't that way but it felt like it. Also, as far as people relaying their own experiences go, I'm all ears- it helps a lot to hear from people who have had similar experiences in their life. Plus, if I'm able to voice this here, everybody should be able to voice their own issues. For so long it felt like I was completely alone, I never heard from anybody who had dealt with similar situations.

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