Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2022-07-03, 02:57:

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However, almost 20 years later, people no longer talk about this kind of raw power. Instead, it's all about expensive GPUs, cryptocurrency, and 4K displays.

This is most depressing...

leileilol wrote on 2022-06-29, 19:21:

it's true. here's john carmack in 1995 codding Quake 1 in hd!!!

I vaguely remember that 16:9 CRT monitor. What's the brand and model?

Intergraph 28hd96

darry wrote on 2022-07-03, 03:20:

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2022-07-03, 02:57:

This is most depressing... […]
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However, almost 20 years later, people no longer talk about this kind of raw power. Instead, it's all about expensive GPUs, cryptocurrency, and 4K displays.

This is most depressing...

leileilol wrote on 2022-06-29, 19:21:

it's true. here's john carmack in 1995 codding Quake 1 in hd!!!

I vaguely remember that 16:9 CRT monitor. What's the brand and model?

Intergraph 28hd96

Interesting, thanks. Turned out it was made by Panasonic.

DNSDies wrote on 2022-06-30, 16:49:

high refresh rate monitors are a blurse as well.
Yes, you get buttery smooth motion, but your GPU actually needs to be able to render those extra frames.
Or you can just play older games at 144hz!

Or you could have a G-Sync or FreeSync monitor and use variable refresh rate. Works a treat so if your framerate drops to 1 fps below the refresh rate of the screen when you have VSync on it won't drop the framerate to half the refresh rate of the screen to sync with the refresh rate of the screen.

cyclone3d wrote on 2022-07-03, 05:31:

DNSDies wrote on 2022-06-30, 16:49:

high refresh rate monitors are a blurse as well.
Yes, you get buttery smooth motion, but your GPU actually needs to be able to render those extra frames.
Or you can just play older games at 144hz!

Or you could have a G-Sync or FreeSync monitor and use variable refresh rate. Works a treat so if your framerate drops to 1 fps below the refresh rate of the screen when you have VSync on it won't drop the framerate to half the refresh rate of the screen to sync with the refresh rate of the screen.

yeah, when it works, it's great. Then you get games like FF14 that shit the bed and cause a dx11 crash when its enabled.

Ah yes, my mid 2000s Athlon x2 5200 that I paired with 16GB if RAM, I remember it well!

Honestly though the underlying principle of the article is sound. There used to be some value in Sli/xfire builds but I certainly don't think there is anymore. Either for the fastest frame rates or pairing two fairly budget cards for the power of a much more expensive card, I remember this worked out well with the AMD 5770. But now very few games support SLI or xfire. I tried it out with an AMD 7990 last year and it was rubbish.

As of now only the 3090/3090ti supports sli and I don't think AMD officially supports crossfire anymore. I'm not sure but I don't think any games support multi-gpu anymore.

gaffa2002 wrote on 2022-07-03, 01:25:

ZellSF wrote on 2022-07-03, 00:30:

I mean, if someone told me a huge improvement to frame pacing wasn't a substantial advantage by itself, I would say they shouldn't bother with a 120hz monitor even if their GPU could manage it. They're clearly not good at spotting motion problems

Honest question…how can a 120hz monitor improve the frame pacing of a game running at fixed 60fps with vsync enabled?

A fixed 60 FPS, it can't. Nor can it at 15/30 FPS, because that way you can do frame pacing by splitting the frames evenly.

That said if you could only run your game at say, 45 FPS, those frames can be more evenly arranged into a 120hz window, than a 60hz one.

Even if you do want to split the frames evenly, and your GPU is too underpowered to run at higher than 60 FPS, 120hz also allows you to run games vsynced at 40 FPS, or if your GPU is really underpowered 120hz can do a cinematic 24 FPS.

cyclone3d wrote on 2022-07-03, 05:31:

DNSDies wrote on 2022-06-30, 16:49:

high refresh rate monitors are a blurse as well.
Yes, you get buttery smooth motion, but your GPU actually needs to be able to render those extra frames.
Or you can just play older games at 144hz!

Or you could have a G-Sync or FreeSync monitor and use variable refresh rate. Works a treat so if your framerate drops to 1 fps below the refresh rate of the screen when you have VSync on it won't drop the framerate to half the refresh rate of the screen to sync with the refresh rate of the screen.

It's generally recommended to just limit framerate to below screen refresh rate, so you never run into v-sync input lag.

That author must have gone to the same college as this guy.