Shagittarius wrote on 2022-11-02, 14:32:Actually performance to price ratio for the 4090 they are the best value in years. Actual cost might be too much for some, well […]
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Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-11-02, 14:26:nVidia knew exactly the problems they were going to encounter.
They knew and considered the risk as "acceptable"
They HAD to k […]
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nVidia knew exactly the problems they were going to encounter.
They knew and considered the risk as "acceptable"
They HAD to know. Think they didn't test these disasters before releasing them?
They knew that there would be issues, just like they knew people would buy them anyway.
They will continue to make problematic decisions until they can't afford to.
Just like Intel kept releasing the same CPU year after year until Zen forced them to actually advance their product again.
TIme will tell whether or not the next gen Radeon cards will give them the push, or if Intel can get their head in the game and write some decent drivers to help convince people to buy their stuff.
Hopefully it is both. Competition is good for everyone.
I bought my first nVidia card in YEARS when I bought my 1080. I am a self admitted AMD fanboy, but I also am no fool. Good performance and good value aren't always mutually exlcusive.
I don't care how awesome a 4090 performs, they are a TERRIBLE value. I have a hard time believing that even the 60 series cards from this generation won't be absurdly overpriced.
But time will tell.
Actually performance to price ratio for the 4090 they are the best value in years. Actual cost might be too much for some, well, they can buy other cards, and that's traditionally where AMD has positioned themselves, the "value" alternative. I only ever owned AMD cards twice the 9800, and the x800. After that, with some arguable instances, there's never been an obvious reason to go AMD over NVidia unless you are pursuing "value", which I don't think is as obvious when you factor in driver issues.
Also, apparently the companies assembling the adapters used different qualities of the materials and some are not rated for an appropriate amount of Voltage. The adapter itself is sound, 3rd party cable builds are the culprit.
Just like you I will decide what is priced appropriately and what is too much for me to buy. Thankfully there are multiple choices in a free market society.
I honestly feel that the "Bad AMD driver" thing is taken vastly out of proportion.
I would argue that their Adrenalin drivers are surperior in pretty much every regard to nVidia's rather archaic if mostly stable driver set.
I also would say that both the Radeon 5xxxx and 6xxxx cards were better bang for buck than anything from nVidia, or at least they would have been if not for scalpers.
Unless you care about RTX that is.....and I just don't care, likely never will until it is exclusively used.
I get what you are saying about price to performance, and while yes the 4090 is a pretty massive generational leap in raw compute and FPS, I don't think that it justifies the cray price jump. I feel that Nvidia saw what were people were willing to pay for a GPU during the minig/pandemic/chip shortage phase.....and knew they could get away with about anything.
And to be honest it is free enterprise, you can't hardly blame them for that. A product is worth whatever consumers will pay for it.
But they have been steadily increasing prices for flagship cards since the intoroduction of the OG Titan.
And honestly what is the 4090 supposed to be?
It's a replacement Titan, and it's MSRP reflects that.
Still here's to hoping that AMD has a very competitive product.
Jury is out on Intel. I refuse to buy their unfinished garbage product to prop them up in the hopes that the second generation cards don't suck.
They have billions to spend on R&D, the general public shouldn't be left beta testing their half baked silicon.
They want us to buy their cards, then they need to make better cards, and drivers.