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First post, by bestemor

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So, not sure if this has been like this all the time after the software transition a few years back, but.... when I try to print a page (CTRL+P), I only seem to get plain text + main pictures on a white background. And YES, I do have background graphics turned ON.

Is that normal ? I was expecting/wanting the full page layout and colors, not this pared down version.... 🤔😥

What I see:

VogonsActualPage.JPG
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What I get:

VogonsPrintPage.JPG
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125.57 KiB
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851 views
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Public domain

Reply 1 of 9, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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This is my result from Firefox, not unlike yours, I'm afraid. And didn't use simplified page, and I didn't disable the backgrounds either.

printing-Vogons-page.jpg
Works for me anyway.

Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman.

Reply 2 of 9, by RandomStranger

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It looks like it depends on the site. It's the same on 2 different browsers. One Chromium based, and one Firefox.

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Reply 3 of 9, by Ryccardo

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Yes, it's normal, of you look at the CSS you can (barely) see that a lot of options have the conditional ("media selector") of "@media screen"... and "Background graphics [and color", was called in IE6] is, well, just about that, not forcing the ordinary rendering in general;

You can do that in Chrome of all things but, like any feature that might be useful to the user that's not a mere consumer of commercial sites and webapps, is pretty well hidden:

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Reply 4 of 9, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-05-25, 05:52:

It looks like it depends on the site. It's the same on 2 different browsers. One Chromium based, and one Firefox.

I actually have no problem with that, because when printing a site, I'd rather use simplified view and disabled backgrounds to keep it simple (and to save ink). But to each his own, and I can understand if bestemor wants to print the site as seen on the browser.

Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman.

Reply 5 of 9, by RandomStranger

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Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2023-05-25, 07:59:
RandomStranger wrote on 2023-05-25, 05:52:

It looks like it depends on the site. It's the same on 2 different browsers. One Chromium based, and one Firefox.

I actually have no problem with that, because when printing a site, I'd rather use simplified view and disabled backgrounds to keep it simple (and to save ink). But to each his own, and I can understand if bestemor wants to print the site as seen on the browser.

I usually print them into PDF to archive certain sites, like CPU support list from motherboard support pages.

sreq.png retrogamer-s.png

Reply 6 of 9, by bestemor

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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-05-25, 09:38:
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2023-05-25, 07:59:
RandomStranger wrote on 2023-05-25, 05:52:

It looks like it depends on the site. It's the same on 2 different browsers. One Chromium based, and one Firefox.

I actually have no problem with that, because when printing a site, I'd rather use simplified view and disabled backgrounds to keep it simple (and to save ink). But to each his own, and I can understand if bestemor wants to print the site as seen on the browser.

I usually print them into PDF to archive certain sites, like CPU support list from motherboard support pages.

That is EXACTLY what I was trying to do.
Print to PDF, I mean... no 'ink' involved 😆

And I then really like to keep the page visually intact, instead of just a wall of text etc.

Reply 7 of 9, by bestemor

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Ryccardo wrote on 2023-05-25, 07:14:

Yes, it's normal, of you look at the CSS you can (barely) see that a lot of options have the conditional ("media selector") of "@media screen"... and "Background graphics [and color", was called in IE6] is, well, just about that, not forcing the ordinary rendering in general;

You can do that in Chrome of all things but, like any feature that might be useful to the user that's not a mere consumer of commercial sites and webapps, is pretty well hidden:
Screenshot 2023-05-25 09.10.47.png

So, is there then a (simple!) way for non-coder 😅 to force the page to 'print' to pdf with the original layout and background mostly intact ?
(not sure I got that CSS(?) picture, or what it means vs adjusting printing options)

Reply 8 of 9, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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bestemor wrote on 2023-05-25, 10:43:
That is EXACTLY what I was trying to do. Print to PDF, I mean... no 'ink' involved 😆 […]
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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-05-25, 09:38:
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2023-05-25, 07:59:

I actually have no problem with that, because when printing a site, I'd rather use simplified view and disabled backgrounds to keep it simple (and to save ink). But to each his own, and I can understand if bestemor wants to print the site as seen on the browser.

I usually print them into PDF to archive certain sites, like CPU support list from motherboard support pages.

That is EXACTLY what I was trying to do.
Print to PDF, I mean... no 'ink' involved 😆

And I then really like to keep the page visually intact, instead of just a wall of text etc.

I haven't tried it myself, but I found this article on superuser.com, I hope it's helpful. Apparently they suggest a third-party utility named wkhtmltopdf, which is open source.

There is also a utility named PDFelement by Wondershare, but it's a commercial program, and I'm not sure it is safe.

Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman.

Reply 9 of 9, by Ryccardo

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bestemor wrote on 2023-05-25, 10:43:

And I then really like to keep the page visually intact, instead of just a wall of text etc.

Maybe it's more practical to save the page as a page?
HTTrack is (IMO) the classic full site/page downloader, wget with a bunch of options is the runner-up, but for one-offs I like "Save Page WE" which, instead of redownloading the page (as the typical browser's native save feature does), dumps it as currently loaded while also embedding all external resources with the "data:" method and seems to do a quite fine job -- even though I eventually go through them and remove all the crap, leaving just the content ready to be packaged in an ePub 😀