Hi Alex, I am not very used to the Monkey Island series, but I vaguely remember
to have heard something about speed sensitivity of the AdLib detection.

So perhaps the computer is just a little bit too fast
(Monkey Island came out when some people still had computers running at 8 to 16MHz).

To make it slower, go to the CMOS setup of your BIOS
and try to disable one of the caches (internal and/or external cache).

Perhaps this will help (no sure, though).

Good luck! 😀

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Hi Alex, I am not very used to the Monkey Island series, but I vaguely remember
to have heard something about speed sensitivity of the AdLib detection.

So perhaps the computer is just a little bit too fast
(Monkey Island came out when some people still had computers running at 8 to 16MHz).

To make it slower, go to the CMOS setup of your BIOS
and try to disable one of the caches (internal and/or external cache).

Perhaps this will help (no sure, though).

Good luck! 😀

Hello!

Thank you for your suggestion, unfortunately I still am not getting sound from the games, although I like the way they are running at the slower CPU speed; and, as a bonus, the original release is working perfectly. I adjusted my CPU speed using built in hotkeys provided by my BIOS provider. You have fixed one of my problems-one I was going to solve next, so we're ahead!

I am wondering if messing with the settings in the soundblaster utility might fix it, as I seem to remember some more advanced games for DOS from my childhood having options to select different sound card configurations (Blood from Monolith is one standout) down to the channels and number of voices. Perhaps Monkey Island, being a less advanced game, only tolerates one configuration that I am not currently set to. I've checked over the documentation and am sad to report I've found nothing in any of the versions about which sound card settings to use.

Thanks again for the help.

Alex

Probably might help if you post the config.sys and autoexec.bat. And of course make sure that the Set Blaster environment is set in autoexec.bat.
I vaguley remember needing ctcm.exe running as well.

Dominus wrote:

Probably might help if you post the config.sys and autoexec.bat. And of course make sure that the Set Blaster environment is set in autoexec.bat.
I vaguley remember needing ctcm.exe running as well.

Hello Dominus,

Thanks for the help. Here are pictures of my config.sys and my autoexec.bat, along with my blaster settings and what I think is the file you're referring to in my SB16 directory. I hope you are able to make some sense of what's going wrong!

Thank you
Alex!

EMM386 ?

agent_x007 wrote:

EMM386 ?

Hello agent_x007,

Thanks for stopping by to try and help me out.

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convey to me right now, could you expand a little for me?

I understand that EMM386 allows you to have more memory than 1MB (I believe??) or something similar, however I don't really understand how I might use it to make my programs run with sound, would you mind showing me what I might need to do?

Based off of what you said in your previous post, I tried keying in EMM386, but it came back as driver not installed. What should my next step be. This is a legit copy of 6.22 installed from floppy. I don't have anything from the (4th) add on diskette installed though.

Thanks for your time
Alex

The divide by 0 error means your system is too fast. The 486 patch might not fix the timing issue sufficiently for the Adlib audio part, while solving other issues. Try killing your L1 cache completely, the hotkeys only add wait states.

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agent_x007 wrote:

EMM386 ?

Thanks for stopping by to try and help me out.

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convey to me right now, could you expand a little for me?

I understand that EMM386 allows you to have more memory than 1MB (I believe??) or something similar, however I don't really understand how I might use it to make my programs run with sound, would you mind showing me what I might need to do?

Based off of what you said in your previous post, I tried keying in EMM386, but it came back as driver not installed. What should my next step be. This is a legit copy of 6.22 installed from floppy. I don't have anything from the (4th) add on diskette installed though.

Thanks for your time
Alex

No problem 😀
EMM386 is memory manager.
Sometimes they are necessary for drivers and programs to understand eachother.

But I think firage is correct in this case. You may require SetMUL program to disable L1 cache (L1D command). Sound problem on Monkey Island also may show up when you didn't used all of the disks for game (ie. you are running not complete install or "demo").

PS. I use DOS 6.22 Enhanced Edition : (link removed)
with Supplemental disk : LINK.
Useful "patch" for the game : LINK.
It creates a DOS version out of CD one.

I'm not sure that DOS 6.22 should be linked here as it's actually a commercial product. MS may not care, but we'd maybe be in trouble if they chose to care. The supplemental disk is probably fine as IIRC it was available for download from their own FTP server for DOS 6.22 users.

firage wrote:

The divide by 0 error means your system is too fast. The 486 patch might not fix the timing issue sufficiently for the Adlib audio part, while solving other issues. Try killing your L1 cache completely, the hotkeys only add wait states.

Hello firage

I have already solved the issue of the divide by 0. Thank you for the help though. I will go ahead and try killing my L1 cache and will report back to you on if that fixes my sound.

Greetings
Alex

gdjacobs wrote:

I'm not sure that DOS 6.22 should be linked here as it's actually a commercial product. MS may not care, but we'd maybe be in trouble if they chose to care. The supplemental disk is probably fine as IIRC it was available for download from their own FTP server for DOS 6.22 users.

I agree and removed the link.

M$ released source code for DOS 1.1/2.0 over three years ago : LINK.
I thought it meant something different... 🙁

agent_x007 wrote:

M$ released source code for DOS 1.1/2.0 over three years ago : LINK.
I thought it meant something different... 🙁

Releasing the source code is just that, a source code release and not a license to distribute that Dos version (let alone a much later version).

firage wrote:

The divide by 0 error means your system is too fast. The 486 patch might not fix the timing issue sufficiently for the Adlib audio part, while solving other issues. Try killing your L1 cache completely, the hotkeys only add wait states.

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No problem 😀
EMM386 is memory manager.
Sometimes they are necessary for drivers and programs to understand eachother.

But I think firage is correct in this case. You may require SetMUL program to disable L1 cache (L1D command). Sound problem on Monkey Island also may show up when you didn't used all of the disks for game (ie. you are running not complete install or "demo").

PS. I use DOS 6.22 Enhanced Edition : (link removed)
with Supplemental disk : LINK.
Useful "patch" for the game : LINK.
It creates a DOS version out of CD one.

Firage and Agent X007-I haven't had any luck so far with getting them to run with sound after I disable the L1 cache. I tried using the Setmul Program suggested by Agent X007, and it does say it disables my cache, but I can't tell if its making any real difference or not, it almost seems like it isn't doing anything, but maybe I'm nuts. should I be running the setmul program from a specific directory or is it perhaps not compatible with my pentium? I tried another program I found here on VOGONS called the "Cache enable/disable utility for DOS". It seems to succeed in doing its job, so well in fact that it prevents the command prompt from running due to what seems like a conflict with the HIGHMEM program which autoexecutes on boot and crashes my system.

The only thing you two have suggested that I haven't tried is using EMM386, but I'm still confused about how to obtain it (you don't have to link it, is it on my disk 4?) and how to use it to see if it can fix this problem.

Out of curiosity, I also booted up another MS-DOS game left over from my childhood, Super Seeker's Treasure Mountain from the Learning Company (My original big box complete with both 5.25 and 3.5 inch diskettes and all the documentation) to see if similar problems with soundblaster sound could be found there. I am unfortunately not getting any soundblaster sound out of that game either. (Although the windows reboot of the game runs perfectly fine in Windows 98SE with all its soundtracks) This has me worried that the problem is quite serious. There's no way that something on the card is defective, even if its passing all its diagnostic tests, is there? The card also has a few rows of pins that might be for jumpers along with the connector for what I think is a memory expansion; but I can't find any information on what they might do, it seems that my CT4500 is some kind of late ISA version of the card and is not a very common example of the AWE64.

I have also tested a game more in line with this computers era, Duke Nukem 3D shareware edition. I am getting the sound effects, but no music. In the DUKE3d setup program I can configure the SFX card extensively, but am only given the choice of what kind of music card to use with no further elaboration. Its been a long time, can my soundblaster output the music and SFX at the same time or do I need two cards for that one?

Thank you all for the help.
Alex

You need to run AWEUTIL /S to get music out of an AWE64. Your Autoexec.bat seems to be missing it.

Your Sound Blaster can certainly do both effects and music.

For music in Duke Nukem 3D, your AWE64 should be compatible with: Adlib, Sound Blaster (Still AdLib), General Midi (330h), and AWE 32.

Check which ones of these are functional. I recommend that you go into the mixer program and ensure that all volume levels are set correctly.

dr_st wrote:

You need to run AWEUTIL /S to get music out of an AWE64. Your Autoexec.bat seems to be missing it.

You've got her. Everything works as it should now that aweutil is loaded into the autoexec.

Thanks everyone so much for their help on this one.
Does anyone want to hear the AWE64?

Greetings
Alex

I know this thread is dead but probably people will still come here with this issue...

To run MONKEY ISLAND 2 with soundblaster sound you need to type "monkey2.exe s"

the executable file takes a few parameters.. you can type money2 /? to see them

cheers

Nunoalex wrote on 2023-06-09, 21:24:

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I know this thread is dead but probably people will still come here with this issue...

To run MONKEY ISLAND 2 with soundblaster sound you need to type "monkey2.exe s"

the executable file takes a few parameters.. you can type money2 /? to see them

cheers

Man, You nailed it!!! I'm just trying to find the reason why it wont work, and this is the solution. Works perfectly with Vibra 16C (CT2960)!
Thanks a lot!