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First post, by tauro

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I want to play the original Quake in 640x480 in pure DOS (6.22)

I tried ver. 1.01, 1.06 and 1.08 and I can't get 60 FPS or more with 640x480 resolution.

I tried using a P3 1.4 GHz, and even a P4 3 GHz, but I don't get more than 36 FPS.

Did you ever get more than this FPS in pure DOS at 640x480? What hardware did you use?

Reply 8 of 16, by tauro

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I'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

Anyway, for those who care and helped, I finally played all Quake with fastvid without any problems, flawlessly. It looks great at 800x600. Fastvid really makes a difference for high resolution playing in pure DOS. I'll start evangelizing about its benefits.

Reply 9 of 16, by amadeus777999

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tauro wrote:

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

Anyway, for those who care and helped, I finally played all Quake with fastvid without any problems, flawlessly. It looks great at 800x600. Fastvid really makes a difference for high resolution playing in pure DOS. I'll start evangelizing about its benefits.

Having Quake "run on all of its 8 cylinders" on a fast CPU is quite a satisfying experience.

Reply 10 of 16, by elianda

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tauro wrote:

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

Anyway, for those who care and helped, I finally played all Quake with fastvid without any problems, flawlessly. It looks great at 800x600. Fastvid really makes a difference for high resolution playing in pure DOS. I'll start evangelizing about its benefits.

Most P4s have the USWC option already in BIOS. So its more like a misconfiguration when not enabled.

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Reply 11 of 16, by tauro

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It is indeed very satisfying to have it running so smoothly and in high res, it's charming.

I ended up using the P3-1.4S + MSI 694T + Voodoo3 3000 8 MB + SB16:
Fastvid 800x600 = 74,3 FPS

The P4 let me down:
P4 3GHz + ASUS P4P800-E + NVIDIA 6600 256 MB + SB Live SB0100
Fastvid 800x600 = 58.5 FPS

elianda wrote:

Most P4s have the USWC option already in BIOS. So its more like a misconfiguration when not enabled.

Please tell me what would the BIOS option be? I see no reference to WC, MTTR or anything alike.

Reply 14 of 16, by PhilsComputerLab

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I reviewed quite a few Slot 1 CPUs, and I believe around a Pentium II 400 or 450 you reach 60 fps in the timedemo. I used a GeForce2 type card.

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Reply 15 of 16, by tauro

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Thank you all for your input. So I did some tests with my video cards in this P4 build, and these are my results:

AGP

Voodoo 3 doesn't fit in the AGP slot
MX400 64 MB fastvid doesn't start and computer hangs
TNT M64 32 MB fastvid doesn't start and computer hangs

Geforce4 MX 4000 64 MB with fastvid
800x600 128.3 FPS
1024x768 94,5 FPS
1280x1024 50,4 FPS
Clearly the AGP winner

PCI

SIS6326 8 MB fastvid doesn't start and computer hangs. Without it, FPS are very low.
S3 Virge/DX 4 MB fastvid doesn't start and computer hangs. Without it, FPS aren't noteworthy.
Other PCI cards I have, from S3 and Trident don't even rank.

Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446-HC-A 1 MB (no fastvid)
800x600 81,4 FPS
1024x768 49,1 FPS

I added 1 extra MB to this card and it turned out to be considerable slower. But the possible resolutions increase (up to 1280x1024)

Reply 16 of 16, by tauro

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Final round of tests with the P3:

P3

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Voodoo3 16 MB with fastvid
800x600 74,3 FPS

Geforce 6600 256 MB with fastvid
800x600 46,3 FPS
1024x768 30,3 FPS

Geforce4 MX 4000 64 MB with fastvid
800x600 72 FPS
1024x768 49,2 FPS
1280x1024 26,4 FPS

TNT2 M64 32 MB with fastvid
800x600 75 FPS
1024x768 50,6 FPS

MX400 64 MB with fastvid
800x600 74,8 FPS
1024x768 50,4 FPS


PCI

Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446-HC-A 1 MB (no fastvid)
800x600 53,0 FPS
1024x768 32,1 FPS

Maybe next step would be re-do the P4 tests with a different 478-motherboard. It's strange why some video-cards simply didn't work with fastvid and the system froze.