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Reply 40 of 46, by tayyare

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appiah4 wrote:

The three of us should put together OS/2 Warp 3 or 4 PCs.. And this conversation should probably split off into an OS/2 discussion thred.. 🤣

My first ever retro rig was a 8-HDD 15 or 16-OS multiboot weirdo. It had both OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 🤣 (just out of curiosity and nostalgia)

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Reply 41 of 46, by lolo799

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There's another memory manager called Memory ServerII from I-O Data.
The version for the PC-98 platform is easy to find on Yahoo auctions but a DOS/V version does exist.

+ ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- +
| Memory Server II for DOS / V Ver 1.04 Supplemental Information |
+ ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- +

This document is about important information about this product.
Before use, please be sure to pass your eyes along with the manual.


+ ------------------------------------------------- +
| File structure |
+ ------------------------------------------------- +

Memory Server II consists of the following files.

Directory \

INSTALL.EXE Memory Server II Installer
ED.EXE Simple editor for installer
Logo data for IOLOGO.DAT installer
MSLOGO.DAT ?
README.TXT Supplementary information file (This file is)

Directory \ IOSPRO

VMM 386. EXE Virtual Memory Manager
VMM386.VXD VMM386.EXE VxD module for Windows
DPMI32.EXE DPMI server
LUMB.EXE UMB loader
OPTUMB.EXE UMB optimization tool
OPTUMB.INI OPTUMB.EXE configuration file
MSTAT.EXE memory usage display command


+ ------------------------------------------------- +
| INSTALL.EXE Ver 1.03 |
+ ------------------------------------------------- +

1. To install in an environment where you do not use EMS, select "Custom installation
Please select and set not to use EMS server.

2. Do not execute in Windows DOS compatible box.

3. If the EMS page frame can not be secured after installation, VMM 386 is included
It is not rare. In such a case, use / EMS (option of VMM 386. EXE)
Because it is necessary, add it with an editor etc., or run the installer again,
Please select "Custom installation" and make settings not to use EMS server.
Yes.


+ ------------------------------------------------- +
| VMM 386.EXE Ver 3.53 |
+ ------------------------------------------------- +

1. / NOREF 67 switch is provided as a speeding up option. However, some
Because it may not operate properly with the utility (MSD etc.), use
Please be careful enough.

2. Some models of COMPAQ recognize only 16MB even if 16MB or more memory is installed
It may not be. In such a case, use the editor etc. for the / COUNT switch
Please add to it.
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3. A memory of 64 MB or more is installed, and a memory space of 64 MB or more is protected memory and
If it is used, the / COUNT switch is necessary, so add it with an editor etc.
Thank you for your kind attention.


+ ------------------------------------------------- +
| DPMI 32. EXE Ver 1.03 |
+ ------------------------------------------------- +

1. In an environment where DPMI function is provided by DPMI 32. EXE, Borland C ++ is normal
It does not work. When using Borland C ++, temporarily by DPMI 32 / OFF
Please prohibit DPMI or cancel resident status with DPMI 32 / R before using.


+ ------------------------------------------------- +
| OPTUMB.EXE Ver 1.02 |
+ ------------------------------------------------- +

1. Do not execute in Windows DOS compatible box.

2. For models with resume function, do not use resume function when OPTUMB is executed
Please do.

3. On models with PC card slots, the PC card is unplugged when OPTUMB is executed
Please.

4. EMS may be unusable after UMB setting, such as when using a PC card.
Please confirm with MSTAT / E or MEM command etc after setting UMB.

5. Device file OPTUMB.INI does not operate properly if it resides in UMB
Representative of the driver and TSR are registered, and in both automatic / manual mode UMB
It is used to determine whether or not loading is possible.

It is not registered in this setting file "It will not work properly if it resides in UMB"
If you are using a device driver or TSR, set "Manual UMB setting"
Please set not to load the UMB.

6. In the UMB setting of OPTUMB, for safety reasons, F0000h - FFFFFh is set as the default in the UMB area
It is not set as. If you want to use this area as the UMB area, set the manual UMB
Please make "area change (add area of ??F0000h - FFFFFh)" by definition. However
If this area is set to the UMB area, some applications will operate normally
Please be careful as it may be gone.


+ ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- +
| Memory Server II for DOS / V Version 1.04 Supplemental Information |
| 1996.January.19 |
| Issued I / O Data Equipment |
| ? 920 Ishikawa prefecture Kanazawa city Sakurada Town 24 blocks 1 |
| |
| Copyright 1995-96 I-O DATA DEVICE, INC. All rights reserved.
| This software and this document are protected by copyright law |
Therefore, it is forbidden to copy, reproduce, reprint or modify without prior consent. |
+ ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- +

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Reply 42 of 46, by dr.zeissler

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@jo22
OS/2 1.2 is installed on ? 286/386/486?

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Reply 43 of 46, by Jo22

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The first one. Picture was taken in PCem with IBM 5170 emulation beeing choosen (Quadtel BIOS). :)

Edit; lolo799, thanks for the information about Memory Server II, too! - Never heard of it it before.
I think it's really cool how we can do learn still a lot about vintage tech (or software) every day, here on Vogons.

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Reply 44 of 46, by lolo799

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Some screenshots of the Memory Server II installer and of the UMB Optimizer:

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The output of the /? switch of the utilities:

VMM 386 Virtual Memory Server Release 3.53
Copyright (C) 1992-1995 I-O DATA DEVICE, INC. All rights reserved.

Command format: vmm386 [/?] [/ I] [/ E | / NE] [/ X | / NX] [/ V | / NV]
/? Display help message
/ I status indication
/ E, / NE ON / OFF of EMS
/ X, / NX ON / OFF of XMS
/ V, / NV ON / OFF of VCPI
DPMI32.EXE DPMI Server Version 1.03(DOS/V Version)

The available options are :

/S=dd Stream buffer size ( dd= 1..64)
/L=dddd Number of LDT ( dddd= 512..8192)
/X Use XMS memory
/NX Not use XMS memory
/V Use VCPI memory
/NV Not use VCPI memory
/U Use UMB for stream buffer
/NU Not use UMB
/ON Activate DPMI
/OFF Inactivate DPMI
/R Remove from memory
LUMB  UMB Loader  Version 2.01
Copyright (C) 1992-95 I-O DATA DEVICE,INC. All rights reserved.

Style-1 To display UMB information
LUMB [option]
/? Quick reference.
/MAP Display UMB map.
/I Show UMB list.
/F Show free UMB list.
/NOESC Disable to use escape sequence

Style-2 To load device driver on UMB
DEVICE=LUMB.EXE [options] [filename [parameters]]
/INFO Display information during installing.
/M Load driver to conventional memory
if no UMB to install found.
/S=<Bytes Count> Specify memory size reserved for driver.
/B=<Block No.> Specify block number to load driver.

Style-3 To load TSR program on UMB
LUMB [options] [filename [parameters]]
/INFO Display information during installing.
/M Load driver to conventional memory
if no UMB found to install.
/S=<Bytes Count> Specify memory size reserved for TSR.
/ENVLAST Set environment area at highest UMB.
/ENVSIZE=<Byte Count> Specify largest UMB size
to set environment at.

NOTE
All value in "<>" needs hexadecimal.

And the output of mstat.exe:

MSTAT  Memory Status  Version 2.21
Copyright (C) 1992-95 I-O DATA DEVICE,INC. All rights reserved.

Û Conventional Memory Information
Address Size ID Name
--------------------------------------------
0B8A-0F67 15840 03DE0h 0008 System Data
0B8B 5008 01390h DEVICE=VMM386
0CC4 208 000D0h FILES
0CD1 272 00110h FCBS
0CE2 8000 01F40h BUFFERS
0ED6 464 001D0h LASTDRIVE
0EF3 1872 00750h STACKS
0F68-108E 4720 01270h 0F69 "COMMAND"
108F-1093 80 00050h ---- Not in use
1094-10A4 272 00110h 0F69 Environment
10A5-10AA 96 00060h ---- Not in use
10AB-12B3 8336 02090h 10AC "DPMI32"
12B4-12BB 128 00080h ---- Not in use
12BC-9FFF 578624 8D440h ---- Not in use

Total Memory Size .................. 655360 bytes
Free Memory Size ................... 578928 bytes
Maximum Image Size to Load ......... 578608 bytes

Û UMB Information
@Not implemented UMB Function.

Û EMS Information
Version ............................ 4.0
Total Page Count ................... 945(15120 Kbytes)
Unallocated Page Count ............. 934(14944 Kbytes)

Page Frame Segment Address ......... D000h
Mappable Physical Page Count ....... 4
Mappable Physical Address .......... D000h D400h D800h DC00h

Total Handles ...................... 64
Free Handles ....................... 61
Attribute Capability ............... Only Volatile Handles

Handle Name Pages Attribute
----------------------------------------------------
0 0( 0 KB) Volatile
1 XMS 0( 0 KB) Volatile
2 VCPI 11( 176 KB) Volatile

Û XMS Information
XMS Version Number ................. 3.00
Driver Internal Revision Number .... 3.53
Entry Address of XMS Function ...... 0B8C:0430
HMA Status ......................... Not in Use
Largest Free EMB ................... 14688 Kbytes
Total Amount of Free EMB ........... 14688 Kbytes

Û VCPI Information
Version ............................ 1.00
Free 4K Page Count ................. 3737

Û DPMI Information
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  CPU ................................ 80486
Version ............................ 1.00
Supported API ...................... 32Bit
Size of private data area .......... 0 bytes
Entry address for protected mode ... 10BCh:0CBEh

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Reply 45 of 46, by Jo22

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Wow, thanks a lot for these pictures, lolo799! :D
IMHO, it looks quite polished and nice and tidy..
A bit like the GUIs of Towns OS or Human 68k from other platforms.

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Reply 46 of 46, by dieymir

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There are several alternatives to QEMM and 386max. Personally I had good results with Helix Netroom.

You can try Memory Commander too, but, unlike Netroom, I do not have good memories of it.