Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Getting old software/games running on older hardware.

Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby GabrielKnight123 » 2019-2-16 @ 11:33

Hi all, what would be the best version of Windows 95 for a 486DX2 66MHz with 16MB of ram for gaming and possible Roland SC55? I have two CD's but I dont know what versions they are, I have:

0795 Part No. 000-04404
and
0796 Part No. 000-45234

From the above two can either of them support an installation to a Fat32 partition?
GabrielKnight123
Member
 
Posts: 401
Joined: 2017-3-03 @ 15:39

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby oeuvre » 2019-2-16 @ 13:43

honestly I'd stick with DOS/WfW 3.11 for a DX2 66... 95 is gonna require a lot of patience on that. Speaking from experience.
Retro PC Intel i5 2500, 8GB RAM, AMD HD7770 1GB, SSD + HD, XP/7
Main Desktop Intel i7 6700K, 32GB, AMD RX580 8GB, NVMe SSD + HD, 10
Image
User avatar
oeuvre
l33t
 
Posts: 2638
Joined: 2015-3-31 @ 13:31
Location: USA

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby GigAHerZ » 2019-2-16 @ 14:09

I also have 3 computer i keep in top notch condition: 386, 486 and Pentium MMX.
386 is pure DOS machine
486 is WfWg 3.11 machine
Pentium is Windows 95 machine

Works great. :)
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
User avatar
GigAHerZ
Member
 
Posts: 212
Joined: 2018-12-17 @ 15:35
Location: Estonia

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby GabrielKnight123 » 2019-2-16 @ 15:59

For this PC build I have Dos 6.21 on it and Win 3.11 is on the way but I only ask because im selling it later and thought the extra Windows 95 would make it stand out, im selling the whole build with a CRT monitor with built in speakers, a Roland SC55 mark 2, a new old stock PC case with NOS power supply, serial mouse, 5 pin din keyboard, noctua 40mm CPU fan, it has a dual boot manager for Dos and Windows 95. I ended up installing 95 it did take some time and was slow and I think I used 95B using FAT32 so all is good in the silicone chip valley :)
GabrielKnight123
Member
 
Posts: 401
Joined: 2017-3-03 @ 15:39

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby DellLatitudeCPx » 2019-2-16 @ 18:32

GabrielKnight123 wrote:Hi all, what would be the best version of Windows 95 for a 486DX2 66MHz with 16MB of ram for gaming and possible Roland SC55? I have two CD's but I dont know what versions they are, I have:

0795 Part No. 000-04404
and
0796 Part No. 000-45234

From the above two can either of them support an installation to a Fat32 partition?


As others have previously stated, I would stick with Win3.1 however if you wan't 95 on that machine, go with RTM. If they support FAT32, they are likely OSR 2 or 2.5.
DellLatitudeCPx
Newbie
 
Posts: 5
Joined: 2019-2-05 @ 22:57

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-2-28 @ 15:50

I don’t know if Win95 will run on a 486dx-66mhz computer but you definitely want to use a CF card for a hard-drive. They provide better performance and multitasking.

I use a CF card with my AMD 5x86-133 running at 133mhz. , 64mb. Ram, And it performs good in Win95c.
I use the Sandisk Extreme 8gb. CF card.
Using Nortons Antivirus I can scan the drive for viruses, play a music CD and surf the internet at the same time.
I would not be able to do this with a conventional mechanical hard-drive.
User avatar
Intel486dx33
Oldbie
 
Posts: 1615
Joined: 2018-5-17 @ 01:17
Location: U.S.A.

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Andrew T. » 2019-2-28 @ 16:15

000-45234 is the part number for the OSR2 release, which is a prerequisite for FAT32.

I briefly ran Windows 95 on a computer of identical specifications (486DX2-66/16MB RAM) back in the day, and thought the performance was acceptable. Avoiding the installation of IE (and avoiding most post-1995 software) helped.
User avatar
Andrew T.
Newbie
 
Posts: 25
Joined: 2019-2-22 @ 04:22
Location: London, Canada

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Jo22 » 2019-2-28 @ 17:00

My father once ran Win 95 RTM on a 386DX40 with 16MiB of RAM.. Performance was "okay" for business and a few desktop games.
So I see no reason why it shouldn't run fine on a 486 (any model), too.

On a 486DX2-66, even Windows 98SE can run. Or crawl, to be honest. :(
CF card are also nice for any DOS/Win3.1 machine. Win9x does more swapping stuff, though,
which might resoult in jerky HDD reaction depending on the card model (system may hang for very short moments each time).
"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

//My video channel//
User avatar
Jo22
l33t
 
Posts: 3599
Joined: 2009-12-13 @ 07:06
Location: Europe

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby canthearu » 2019-3-03 @ 02:05

Win95 OSR2 will run fine on a 486-DX2 66.

Good for downloading stuff over the network or running very basic windows games.

Also great if you have a larger hard drive (more than 2gig)
canthearu
Oldbie
 
Posts: 577
Joined: 2018-5-26 @ 01:00

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby brostenen » 2019-3-05 @ 19:31

We all ran Win95 first release on 486's, back in 1995. DX, DX2 and so on. In retrospekt, it was a really slow experience. We did it because that was what type of hardware we had at that time. My advice, like many others here, is to stick with MS-Dos 6.22 on 486. Even on a Pentium-1 system, I will say MS-Dos 6.22
Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk

001100 010010 011110 100001 101101 110011

Jah ich will trynen... Die Leute wie macht scheisse in dem Grünen.
User avatar
brostenen
l33t++
 
Posts: 5336
Joined: 2014-5-07 @ 21:13
Location: Northern Jutland, Denmark.

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Fimbulvetr » 2019-3-06 @ 18:16

I have a 486 laptop -- Compaq LTE -- it runs the floppy disk version of Windows 95 perfectly fine.
Fimbulvetr
Newbie
 
Posts: 44
Joined: 2018-2-26 @ 21:37

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Jo22 » 2019-3-06 @ 20:19

brostenen wrote:We all ran Win95 first release on 486's, back in 1995. DX, DX2 and so on.
In retrospekt, it was a really slow experience. We did it because that was what type of hardware we had at that time.

Same here. In my country or place, Win95 was hyped a lot even before it materialized.
Unfortunately, the hardware here was still behind the current gen,
perhaps because of the conservative attitude here, ie, don't throw things away as long as they work.
Even XT/286 machines were still around in the public (cash registers, terminals in big libraries) , say 1996-98 or so.

Also, most current software was available as Win16 binaries, sometimes even included as a fallback in a Win95 product.
I guess that was the reason why 486/386es lasted till the end of the 90s and vendors continued
to sell 486 PCs with Win95 or offered upgrades for 386 PCs, since they could at least run less-demanding 3.1 applications.

Back then, I often saw totally underpowered Win95 machines.
The speed was okay most of the time (386Dx40, 486DX, 486DX2-66 etc), but the memory.. Jesus! 4 to 6MB only. :cry:
And *if* more memory was available, the mainbaord cache didn't got equally upgraded as well.

Looking back, it was similar to the previous 286 times in which those poos PCs only got 1MB of RAM,
but were expected to run Windows 3.1 at full speed (and if they didn't, either the CPU or Windows was considered being junk).
Same for OS/2. It needed 16MB to work flawlessly, but often got 8 at best. Vobis sold such underpowered machines, I recall
(but to their defense - at least they offered OS/2, which as a nice move, so the OS got a chance to show its abilities.)

In the minds of these people, apparently only two things mattered in that era:
CPU Speed (raw clock rate, without considering the underlying architecture) and..
fat, loud hard disks (regardless of access speed, cache, etc). ;)

Ah, what a wonderful time for PC vendors that sold their old junk to PC newbies. :D

Edit: Edited.
"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

//My video channel//
User avatar
Jo22
l33t
 
Posts: 3599
Joined: 2009-12-13 @ 07:06
Location: Europe

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby GabrielKnight123 » 2019-3-08 @ 08:53

My old friend Mike M. had a great time during the time of old days with memory that was soldered to the main board he said once that he made a mint in his shop from memory upgrades best time he had. I have installed 95 with FAT32 (OSR2?) and it seems to be ok but I have not run any games yet to test loading speed or stability I'll cross my fingers and wear a rabbits foot around my neck and hope for the best.
GabrielKnight123
Member
 
Posts: 401
Joined: 2017-3-03 @ 15:39

Re: Best Windows 95 Version For 486 66MHz

Postby Damaniel » 2019-3-12 @ 20:25

Intel486dx33 wrote:I don’t know if Win95 will run on a 486dx-66mhz computer but you definitely want to use a CF card for a hard-drive. They provide better performance and multitasking.

I use a CF card with my AMD 5x86-133 running at 133mhz. , 64mb. Ram, And it performs good in Win95c.
I use the Sandisk Extreme 8gb. CF card.
Using Nortons Antivirus I can scan the drive for viruses, play a music CD and surf the internet at the same time.
I would not be able to do this with a conventional mechanical hard-drive.


It will run on a 486/66, but you won't be able to do much multitasking, even with 16MB of RAM. Any class of Pentium makes the experience a lot better.
Damaniel
Newbie
 
Posts: 26
Joined: 2014-10-10 @ 22:16


Return to Software

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: knowledge [bot] and 2 guests