Warlord wrote:

WRP - Web Rendering Proxy
https://github.com/tenox7/wrp

I heard about that. I tried it. It only works because it needs your vintage machine to connect to a machine running this script. And it’s difficult to use the keyboard with it. I hope he improves it to use like a real proxy instead of a page to connect to.

Still... I believe that having the need of another machine to be able to connect and surf the web on a vintage device or VM or dosbox instance is not the ideal.

I disagree in that if it can be made into an appliance like a router or a firewall, and run on something small like a raspberry or something than its no different than using vpn, or a proxy server that plenty of people use.

Well.. there is the windows 98 mass storage device driver, that adds plug and play functionality to most USB sticks.. a feature we have come to take for granted on more modern systems

before that, I remember having to install specific drivers for soem USB sticks in order to use them

CBM wrote:

Well.. there is the windows 98 mass storage device driver, that adds plug and play functionality to most USB sticks.. a feature we have come to take for granted on more modern systems

before that, I remember having to install specific drivers for soem USB sticks in order to use them

It works wonderfully well too.

Caluser2000 wrote:

CBM wrote:

Well.. there is the windows 98 mass storage device driver, that adds plug and play functionality to most USB sticks.. a feature we have come to take for granted on more modern systems

before that, I remember having to install specific drivers for soem USB sticks in order to use them

It works wonderfully well too.

Yes, it makes transfering files between new and old(er) systems much easier 😀

https://www.philscomputerlab.com/windows-98-u … age-driver.html

This is a fun and nice thread, I must say. I'm one of the few nutjobs here (most likely the only one) who actually uses a retro machine daily not just for gaming, but for general use. The computer in my signature is my main computer.

Insane? Yeah. Stupid? Of course. Overkill? Definitely. Stupidly overkill? Absolutely.

What I mostly find fun is to try to figure out the limitations of the machine itself and trying to overcome and get around them. So far, I have succeded, since it runs Windows XP and browses the web at a very good pace. Using this overclocked Pentium III Tualatin as my daily driver for all my daily tasks also taught me how to optimize the machine as much as possible and get the most out of it. If it wasn't for this system, I would have never developed the UOC Patch and the Enforcer, for example.

Right now, I'm waiting for three new RAM modules, that should let me push the FSB to 150MHz (hopefully, considering that the chips of those sticks are the ones recommended for overclocking at 2-2-2-5...), a 128GB SSD in order to get rid of mechanical hard drives for good, and hopefully, an SL6BY Tualatin, which seems to be suited better for overclocking.

Is it just me, but i can not connect to modern FTP servers with mtcp. I made a Bakop free FTP server, but no deal.

What do you mean by modern ftp server? It either conforms to the ftp standard or it doesn't.

looking4awayout wrote:

This is a fun and nice thread, I must say. I'm one of the few nutjobs here (most likely the only one) who actually uses a retro machine daily not just for gaming, but for general use. The computer in my signature is my main computer.

Getting the most out of a system just makes sense. My 286 is my main irc system with it's nice big crt. I wouldn't be using windows 10 if the wife hadn't bought this laptop. I'd be on my trusty Dell P4 running Linux. So I'm saving a bit of power in the process. As others have mentioned the modern web is a a bloated pig but there are ways around it.

Good work btw I'm sure plenty of folk will appreciate the effort you put in. Almost tempted to drag out the old ex work P4 I've got out in the garage with XP SP3 on it back into service and watch everyone scream about how insecure it is.

Would be nice to see how your P4 would fare with the UOC Patch. I have a thread about it here, but it's on MSFN where it has the most updated versions. I will have to overhaul the thread here some day.

Cyberdyne wrote:

Is it just me, but i can not connect to modern FTP servers with mtcp. I made a Bakop free FTP server, but no deal.

Read the docs? http://brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP_2015-07-05.pdf

File a bug report? (I take bug reports via email. Be sure to let me know what FTP server you were trying to connect to.)

Mike

Caluser2000 wrote:

looking4awayout wrote:

This is a fun and nice thread, I must say. I'm one of the few nutjobs here (most likely the only one) who actually uses a retro machine daily not just for gaming, but for general use. The computer in my signature is my main computer.

Getting the most out of a system just makes sense. My 286 is my main irc system with it's nice big crt Linux of some sort. I wouldn't be using windows 10 if the wife hadn't bought this laptop. I'd be on my trusty Dell P4 running Linux.So I'm saving a bit of power in the process. As others have mentioned the modern web is a a bloated pig but there are ways around it.

Good work btw I'm sure plenty of folk will appreciate the effort you put in. Almost tempted to drag out the old ex work P4 I've got out in the garage with XP SP3 on it back into service and watch everyone scream about how insecure it is.

You two made me wonder if there are safe ways to browse the web with a vintage machine running a vintage OS as well. I can’t stop to think about how unsafe it could be on a Windows 95 machine nowadays, for example.

If you use Windows 2000 with Blackwingcat's Extended Kernel or Windows XP, the safest option is to use Roytam1's browsers. They are based on Firefox 45 ESR or 52 ESR according to the version, and they feature all the security updates backported from newer versions.

A beefy HOSTS file, Noscript, uBlock Origin and Bluhell Firewall, alongside a periodical scan for malwares is also another way to keep the system secure. I have been using the RDD since two years and I never, and I say never caught anything malicious.

bfcastello wrote:

Caluser2000 wrote:

looking4awayout wrote:

This is a fun and nice thread, I must say. I'm one of the few nutjobs here (most likely the only one) who actually uses a retro machine daily not just for gaming, but for general use. The computer in my signature is my main computer.

Getting the most out of a system just makes sense. My 286 is my main irc system with it's nice big crt Linux of some sort. I wouldn't be using windows 10 if the wife hadn't bought this laptop. I'd be on my trusty Dell P4 running Linux.So I'm saving a bit of power in the process. As others have mentioned the modern web is a a bloated pig but there are ways around it.

Good work btw I'm sure plenty of folk will appreciate the effort you put in. Almost tempted to drag out the old ex work P4 I've got out in the garage with XP SP3 on it back into service and watch everyone scream about how insecure it is.

You two made me wonder if there are safe ways to browse the web with a vintage machine running a vintage OS as well. I can’t stop to think about how unsafe it could be on a Windows 95 machine nowadays, for example.

I highly doubt 9x systems are even targeted. I ran a Win98FEsystem well into the late 2000s without any bother whatsoever I still have it sitting in front of me.

Good to know. I will probably try out a W2K or W98FE VM and see.

I've had W2K explode on me within half an hour being on the internet. Mind you I was using internet Explorer. It'll be interesting to see how an unmodded Win98FE goes. My set up has been significantly altered from standard over the 8-10 years it had been in relatively constant use.

In the past few years I have been regularly using MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, 98SE, and 2000 fully exposed on the internet with no antivirus, no security patches except for 2000 SP4, etc. -- and I have had no issues whatsoever.

I don't think ANY viruses nowadays run on those old OS's. You would have to either accidentally or purposefully seek one out, maybe download something on an ancient FTP site that is infected, or something. Nothing's actively sniffing out that stuff.

I've even had vulnerable services up and running on my retro PCs and ported through on my home router, and... nothing.

By contrast I've had internet services up and running using modern Linux servers and there have been constant infiltration attempts by Chinese or Russian bots almost immediately.

Basically, virus writers and hackers don't give a damn about OS's that take up 0.00001% of the internet. It's just not worth it.

I have a copy of dosrdp, idk if anyone ever heard about it, but you can connect to 2000 or xp with RDP from dos.

Warlord wrote:

I have a copy of dosrdp, idk if anyone ever heard about it, but you can connect to 2000 or xp with RDP from dos.

What?! I did not know that existed. Is that something you could share here?