Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-4-22 @ 14:44

jheronimus wrote:I wish there was an easy Wayback Machine proxy so I could just open Netscape on my 90s machine, type in an URL and browse the archived version of the site. I mean, http://oldweb.today exists, so this should really be doable, but I don't have the skills to make it happen.

Seconded - added to the list of ideas in the Google doc.
mbbrutman wrote:mTCP can fill the entire memory of a DOS machine in seconds. That's probably fast enough.

In my testing last night with my 286, I'm pretty sure it was maxing out the hard drive speed with a 10mbps NIC.
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-4-22 @ 18:24

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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby digger » 2019-4-22 @ 21:54

Interesting initiative! :)

About some of your suggestions:

keenmaster486 wrote:
  • New software/drivers to add functionality that either was proprietary/licensed or never existed to begin with
  • Ways to add hardware functionality that was either very expensive or didn't exist yet back in the day (e.g. WiFi cards, high-capacity solid state storage, all those super-cool newly made parallel port devices, etc.
  • Modern peripherals interfacing with older systems
  • Patches for old OS's to make them more stable/secure or add modern functionality (A/V codecs, security protocols, etc.)


Well, this may be a bit off-topic, since your stated goal here is to breathe new life in the hardware side of retro computing, but personally I would very much like to see the development of newer drivers for older OSes, particularly OSes in the Win9x family, so that they could run more smoothly in VMs on modern systems, also in the future. I'm talking about storage drivers for modern standards such as AHCI and NVMe, as well as paravirtualized drivers for VM standards such as virtio-blk, virtio-scsi, virtio-net, QXL, VirGL, etc. This would allow these legacy OSes to run at near native speeds on a hardware-accelerated Hypervisor such as KVM, Xen or VirtualBox. That would preserve these OSes for the longer term and possibly make retro gaming more feasible on modern systems. :)

What do you think?
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-5-01 @ 03:23

jheronimus wrote:I wish there was an easy Wayback Machine proxy so I could just open Netscape on my 90s machine, type in an URL and browse the archived version of the site. I mean, http://oldweb.today exists, so this should really be doable, but I don't have the skills to make it happen.

http://theoldnet.com/

Did somebody order a WayBack Machine translator for retro systems?

This isn't my work!! I have no idea how long this has been around, but I only just now discovered it. Maybe the creator will step forward? What a great idea.
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby mrau » 2019-5-01 @ 05:45

why do You want the old content of the site instead of translation of current content to a form bearable for old machines?
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-5-01 @ 06:08

That would be good too, but that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms.
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby bfcastello » 2019-7-22 @ 03:38

I (censored)ing love these ideas! Keep 'em coming, Not many technologies are retro compatible these days.
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-7-29 @ 21:02

I updated my "ClassicMedia" retro-compatible content sharing website: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=68295
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Re: Retro machines usefulness/connectivity thread

Postby bfcastello » 2019-8-06 @ 02:52

How about a way to watch modern video codecs? I mean, how hard it can be to make Win 3.x video apps capable of playing some of the videos we have actually (like the ones supported by Youtube? So we could download and watch locally).
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