LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

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LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-02 @ 17:42

So we were going to fire up a StarCraft LAN game, with my two legacy comps and one semi-modern Mac and I ran into an issue.

At some point, Blizzard removed the StarCraft patches and installers from their website completely, opting instead for a Launcher type app, that always installs the latest game client.

The problem? My Mac will only install version 1.23 thru the launcher, and the legacy computers won't even run the launcher. The latest patch I have archived for myself for my PCs is SC/Broodwar is 1.16.1. Thus the newer Mac can't join any games hosted by the older systems.

Is there an archive of installers or patches somewhere that would allow me to use the original SC install disc to install SC on my Mac, instead of the Blizzard launcher?
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby AlphaPapa » 2019-8-02 @ 18:13

Maybe you can try this guys tool
http://www.rivsoft.net/projects/other/blizzget/
to download a different patch version.
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby akula65 » 2019-8-02 @ 18:37

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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-03 @ 13:46

AlphaPapa wrote:Maybe you can try this guys tool
http://www.rivsoft.net/projects/other/blizzget/
to download a different patch version.


akula65 wrote:Perhaps this will help:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20762106291


Great! I now have the patch I wanted, StarCraft/Broodwar 1.16.1...

But now I have a different problem... In order to get the game to version 1.16.1, I need to install an older version first. However the version of the game included on my disk doesn't support macOS 10.x series at all, it's intended for System 7.6 and later!

I'm sure there used to be an installer for the game available thru the Blizzard website that allowed you to install the OS X client using your original CD and CD-key as assets, but I could be mistaken.
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Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, RivaTNT 2, Aureal Vortex 2 etc...
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby Srandista » 2019-8-03 @ 14:12

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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-03 @ 19:46



YES! That's exactly what I was looking for! Only ... what now:

cannot-run-installer.png


Older versions of OS X only, I guess? :dead:
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby akula65 » 2019-8-03 @ 23:39

leonardo wrote:my two legacy comps and one semi-modern Mac

You need to define exactly what the Mac is. Is it a PPC Mac or not, because that's what StarCraft was originally written for.

Here is the Blizzard page for an OS X update from 2001 with instructions:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011201032 ... atch.shtml

Note the instructions about the Classic environment and StarCraft_Installer_1.05-b.sit.

If you have a newer Mac, then you may have to resort to using the Windows version of StarCraft from the CD-ROM in some type of Wine environment like this user did:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ho ... r.1583771/
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-04 @ 13:20

akula65 wrote:
leonardo wrote:my two legacy comps and one semi-modern Mac

You need to define exactly what the Mac is. Is it a PPC Mac or not, because that's what StarCraft was originally written for.

Here is the Blizzard page for an OS X update from 2001 with instructions:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011201032 ... atch.shtml

Note the instructions about the Classic environment and StarCraft_Installer_1.05-b.sit.

If you have a newer Mac, then you may have to resort to using the Windows version of StarCraft from the CD-ROM in some type of Wine environment like this user did:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ho ... r.1583771/


Yeah, it's starting to come back to me now. I just remember my friends and I gaming on different hardware, one friend having an early Unibody MacBook Pro. But those would have run OS X Leopard or Snow Leopard back then so I figured maybe the StarCraft OS X installer linked earlier only works on the earlier versions of OS X. I went digging and I found this old thing in the closet (by now it's too late, the LAN is over, but hey):

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It's a Core Duo, probably one of the first Intel MacBooks produced with 1 GB RAM. I put it away because it had some issues, like a dead battery, Bluetooth gone haywire and because it couldn't run an up-to-date OS. Now this is looking like a perfect StarCraft LAN-client...
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Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, RivaTNT 2, Aureal Vortex 2 etc...
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-04 @ 18:59

...and the installer doesn’t recognize my disc. Aren’t computers fun?

Oh well, I’ll post the solution once I figure it out.
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Re: LAN play across hardware generations: StarCraft

Postby leonardo » 2019-8-09 @ 15:02

OK.

So for Macs up to OS X 10.6.8 the solution is this:

You need to get a later DVD-cased release of the game. In my case I found this one going for 7€ used. Not a bad deal. The box says you need WinXP, Vista or 7 - OR OS X 10.3.9 and later. The version of the game on disc is actually 1.15.2 which can be patched (with the patches from the earlier post above) to 1.16.1.

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This brings all the clients running Win95/98 and OS X Leopard/Snow Leopard on the same plane for LAN.

This means all early Intel MacBooks.

If you're running anything later than Lion, this is not going to work, obviously. We may need to resort to WINE or something else to run the same client across all the generations of hardware from a Pentium with Win9x to a modern Win7 PC or a Mac with the latest OS.
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Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, RivaTNT 2, Aureal Vortex 2 etc...
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