AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

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AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-09 @ 20:42

Wich os is better for this kind of system? have 32Mb ram but i can reach 64Mb, trident 9400 and vlbus IDE controller.

Win98SE will be too slow without advantage respect win95 on this computer?

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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-09 @ 21:01

Go Win98 and remove all the extra unneeded crap of it. The better USB support is worth it. Failing that Win95 OSR 2.5. Ignore the original Win95 as it has no Fat32 support.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-09 @ 21:52

My 486 not have usb port and i can't add.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-09 @ 22:07

Windows 95 OSR 2.5 then
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby chinny22 » 2019-9-10 @ 10:55

2nd for Win95 2.5, any 486 will still spend most its gaming time in dos anyway
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-13 @ 20:00

And what function can windows95 have on a 486 if it is used for 90% in DOS? I would have used it to transfer files more comfortably than with DOS ... but for that also win3.11 can be enough
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-9-13 @ 23:42

I have an AMD 5x86 with 32mb of ram and a CF card for hard-drive.
PCI video card 4mb.
It is running Win95b and it SUCKS !
It performs okay but will NOT play back MP3’s very well.
A little choppy.
I definitely would NOT put Win98 on it.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-13 @ 23:47

AlessandroB wrote:And what function can windows95 have on a 486 if it is used for 90% in DOS? I would have used it to transfer files more comfortably than with DOS ... but for that also win3.11 can be enough
Win 3 will be leaner. You can also just go the complete Dos route using the ftp client from the mTCP suite of programs. Al you need s packet driver for your network card.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-13 @ 23:55

Intel486dx33 wrote:I have an AMD 5x86 with 32mb of ram and a CF card for hard-drive.
PCI video card 4mb.
It is running Win95b and it SUCKS !
It performs okay but will NOT play back MP3’s very well.
A little choppy.
I definitely would NOT put Win98 on it.
I definitely would NOT put Win98 on it.
Hardly surprising at all. You can strip Win95b down a bit though.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby mothergoose729 » 2019-9-13 @ 23:56

AlessandroB wrote:Wich os is better for this kind of system? have 32Mb ram but i can reach 64Mb, trident 9400 and vlbus IDE controller.

Win98SE will be too slow without advantage respect win95 on this computer?

Tnks.


I wouldn't bother with windows on a 486. I would just use a compact flash card for storage in a removable bay, and transfer files and games to it with a PC. Windows 3.11 or a DOS shell can be used for more convenient file management if you need it. The only reason to get windows 95 IMO is if you plan on doing networking or surfing the net... or of course for windows games, which will all run like molasses on a CPU like that anyhow.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-14 @ 07:27

my fileserver run Win10, can i access it using Win3.11 or Win95 on SMB?
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby GigAHerZ » 2019-9-14 @ 09:50

You need to enable SMB1 support on Win10, then you can.
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-14 @ 10:47

i take a look how to do soon as i can tnks for now
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-15 @ 18:02

GigAHerZ wrote:You need to enable SMB1 support on Win10, then you can.



Also between w3.11 and win10
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby GigAHerZ » 2019-9-15 @ 19:28

AlessandroB wrote:
GigAHerZ wrote:You need to enable SMB1 support on Win10, then you can.



Also between w3.11 and win10


There's nothing to enable in w3.11, as it only knows the first version, nothing else...
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby AlessandroB » 2019-9-15 @ 20:10

you mean that there is not possibilities from windows 3.11 to see a samba shared folder on windows10?
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby GigAHerZ » 2019-9-16 @ 05:23

@AlessandroB, there is - you need to enable SMB1 on Win10. By default SMB1 is turned off, as it's old and full of bugs and security flaws.
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby appiah4 » 2019-9-16 @ 08:41

Well, between Win98 and Win98, I'd definitely go for Win98.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby feipoa » 2019-9-19 @ 03:26

If you aren't going to use any games or other software in Windows, how about MS-DOS 6.22 and another partition with NT 3.51? I find NT 3.51 more stable and generally quicker than Win95c on a 486. WinNT4 feels a lot slower than NT 3.51 though. Apparently there is also a classic Windows NT/9x shell for NT 3.51 you could use.
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Re: AMD 5x86 P75 - Win98 or Win98?

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-19 @ 07:59

I would'nt run New Shell on NT 3.5x. It's as buggy as all heck.
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