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First post, by tomexplodes

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I can of course run the game in software rendering, but it's slow. I'm hoping there's a workaround of some kind to get it to run without glitches in hardware mode.

AMD Athlon 1.3 ghz
ATI Radeon 7000 64 mb
256 mb ram
98SE with Unofficial SP3

I've made it ALMOST work with the 1.02 patch, in spite of not having an Nvidia card. In Riva 128 mode, the text is garbled and the background is cut into chunks. In TNT mode, it's ALMOST perfect except I've noticed that Barrett's beard is missing in battles, so I expect other graphical oddities exist.

I tried to install Aali's opengl fix 0.8.1b, but it seems to be for a later Windows version. I also tried the slightly older 0.7.11 build, but that just makes my graphics go away in game.

Anyone who's made this work with an ATI card, please help. I understand that there are a million other options for playing FF7 these days, but the hardware accelerated version with that gorgeous Yamaha midi... that's how I played it in my formative years, that's how I love it. Help me Vogon-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 2 of 13, by bloodem

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Unfortunatly, I don’t think there’s an option to play it with an ATI card. Just get a cheap GeForce 2 MX and you’re good to go.

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Reply 8 of 13, by bloodem

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Yeah, get yourself an expensive video card (such as a Voodoo 2 / 3), so you can play a game that runs perfectly on a $5 video card 😀

1 x PLCC-68 / 2 x PGA132 / 5 x Skt 3 / 9 x Skt 7 / 12 x SS7 / 1 x Skt 8 / 14 x Slot 1 / 5 x Slot A
5 x Skt 370 / 8 x Skt A / 2 x Skt 478 / 2 x Skt 754 / 3 x Skt 939 / 7 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
Current PC: Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Backup PC: Core i7 7700k

Reply 9 of 13, by Joseph_Joestar

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If I'm not mistaken, FFVII needed support for palleted textures, and Ati cards simply don't have that.

Any Nvidia card from that era should work fine though, so I second the GeForce2 MX recommendation.

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Reply 10 of 13, by cyclone3d

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I still have the trapezoid boxed version of FFVII that I pre-ordered. The box has the 3dfx logo on it. I played it on whatever 3dfx card I had at the time it was released.

Here is the text from the FF7ReadMe.txt about original video card support:

VIDEO CARDS

Supported 3D Accelerator Video Cards
Final Fantasy VII currently supports 3D accelerator video cards that
pass the criteria contained in the FF7 Configuration graphic card test.
At release time, the game supports the cards that contain any of the
following chipsets:
3Dfx Voodoo
3Dfx Voodoo2
3Dfx Voodoo Rush
3Dlabs Permedia2
ATI Rage Pro
Intel I740

In addition, the game will support the following chipsets when they
ship later this year:
Matrox G200
NEC PowerVR2

The D3D patch did not come out till later.

Edit:
If you want to play it well without an officially supported video card, then you probably want to get the unofficial patch stuff and set it up in XP. I remember it being a super pain to get working, but once you do get it working it works just fine for the most part.

Last edited by cyclone3d on 2020-06-22, 04:53. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 12 of 13, by Gamecollector

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FF7 is d3d + software. The glide API isn't supported in this game.
The unpatched version of FF7 needs palettized textures for the d3d mode. The patch "workarounds" this requirement and the game works with all d3d videocards.

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Radeon HD3850 Agp (Sapphire), Catalyst 14.4 (XpProSp3).
Voodoo2 12 MB SLI, Win2k drivers 1.02.00 (XpProSp3).

Reply 13 of 13, by tomexplodes

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I put my old Geforce 4 MX 440 in my 98 machine and poof, works out of the box. Thanks for the help, everyone!

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value