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Fire and Ice (1993, DOS) Sound Blaster mode?

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First post, by eddman

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I can't get it to work on 86box since the SB mode freezes the game. I'm trying to figure out if it works on real hardware, and if so, what hardware and boot settings need to be used.

Has anyone managed to run this game on a Sound Blaster card?

Reply 2 of 6, by eddman

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Shagittarius wrote on 2024-01-30, 17:19:

It works for me.

P133
Sound Blaster 16 (IRQ 7, DMA 1, I/O 220)

What's your hardware specs? Could you post the content of config.sys and autoexec.bat?

Also which version of DOS are you using?

I have to recreate the environment to make sure it's not related to hardware compatibility or system settings.

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Reply 3 of 6, by konc

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What a coincidence, I just revisited this game last weekend.
It works for me as well with the Audician 32 clone (A220 I5 D1) in a 386/40.
Nothing special about the config, the usual generic himem, emm386, cdrom & mouse drivers, dos 6.22.

Reply 4 of 6, by Shagittarius

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eddman wrote on 2024-01-30, 17:38:
What's your hardware specs? Could you post the content of config.sys and autoexec.bat? […]
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Shagittarius wrote on 2024-01-30, 17:19:

It works for me.

P133
Sound Blaster 16 (IRQ 7, DMA 1, I/O 220)

What's your hardware specs? Could you post the content of config.sys and autoexec.bat?

Also which version of DOS are you using?

I have to recreate the environment to make sure it's not related to hardware compatibility or system settings.

DOS 7

CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM d=64 h=128 I=B000-B7FF frame=d000 I=d800-efff X=CD00-CFFF
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
BUFFERS=40,0
FILES=40
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=X
REM DEVICEHIGH /L:1,3600 =C:\DOS\NANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ZANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPI8DOS.SYS /P230
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPICD.SYS /D:SCSICD
AUTOEXEC.BAT:

:CDROM
C:\DOS\SHSUCDX /D:SCSICD /L:X
:COMMON
C:\DOS\MODE CON RATE=32 DELAY=1
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P300 T6
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
C:\DOS\CTMOUSE.EXE
GOTO 3DFX
:3DFX
SET SST_GRXCLK=90
SET SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4
SET SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1
SET SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0
SET SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2
GOTO EXIT
:EXIT
@prompt $e[1;34m$p$e[1;36m$g$e[0m
@Path=C:\;C:\Dos;C:\apps;C:\apps\moslo;C:\apps\hexit
@CLS

MEM OUTPUT:

Memory Type Total = Used + Free
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Conventional 640K 16K 624K
Upper 91K 88K 2K
Reserved 293K 293K 0K
Extended (XMS) 64,512K 688K 63,824K
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Total memory 65,536K 1,086K 64,450K

Total under 1Mb 731K 104K 626K

Total Expanded (EMS) 33,152K (33,947,648 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS) 32,768K (33,554,432 bytes)

Total Extended (XMS) 64,512K (66,060,288 bytes)
Free Extended (XMS) 63,824K (65,355,776 bytes)

Largest executable program size 624K (638,912 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block 2K (1,776 bytes)
Available space in High Memory Area 5K (5,344 bytes)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

Reply 5 of 6, by eddman

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Shagittarius wrote on 2024-01-30, 18:33:
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DOS 7

CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM d=64 h=128 I=B000-B7FF frame=d000 I=d800-efff X=CD00-CFFF
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
BUFFERS=40,0
FILES=40
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=X
REM DEVICEHIGH /L:1,3600 =C:\DOS\NANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ZANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPI8DOS.SYS /P230
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPICD.SYS /D:SCSICD
AUTOEXEC.BAT:

:CDROM
C:\DOS\SHSUCDX /D:SCSICD /L:X
:COMMON
C:\DOS\MODE CON RATE=32 DELAY=1
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P300 T6
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
C:\DOS\CTMOUSE.EXE
GOTO 3DFX
:3DFX
SET SST_GRXCLK=90
SET SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4
SET SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1
SET SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0
SET SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2
GOTO EXIT
:EXIT
@prompt $e[1;34m$p$e[1;36m$g$e[0m
@Path=C:\;C:\Dos;C:\apps;C:\apps\moslo;C:\apps\hexit
@CLS

MEM OUTPUT:

Memory Type Total = Used + Free
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Conventional 640K 16K 624K
Upper 91K 88K 2K
Reserved 293K 293K 0K
Extended (XMS) 64,512K 688K 63,824K
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Total memory 65,536K 1,086K 64,450K

Total under 1Mb 731K 104K 626K

Total Expanded (EMS) 33,152K (33,947,648 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS) 32,768K (33,554,432 bytes)

Total Extended (XMS) 64,512K (66,060,288 bytes)
Free Extended (XMS) 63,824K (65,355,776 bytes)

Largest executable program size 624K (638,912 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block 2K (1,776 bytes)
Available space in High Memory Area 5K (5,344 bytes)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

Thanks. It's more or less the same as mine.

Are you using only the windows' built-in driver for sound blaster, or installed a separate driver, perhaps for DOS?

Do you have any other files in the game folder (FIRE) besides FIRE.EXE and FIRE&ICE.CFG?

Reply 6 of 6, by Shagittarius

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eddman wrote on 2024-01-31, 17:33:
Thanks. It's more or less the same as mine. […]
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Shagittarius wrote on 2024-01-30, 18:33:
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DOS 7

CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM d=64 h=128 I=B000-B7FF frame=d000 I=d800-efff X=CD00-CFFF
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF
BUFFERS=40,0
FILES=40
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=X
REM DEVICEHIGH /L:1,3600 =C:\DOS\NANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ZANSI.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPI8DOS.SYS /P230
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ASPICD.SYS /D:SCSICD
AUTOEXEC.BAT:

:CDROM
C:\DOS\SHSUCDX /D:SCSICD /L:X
:COMMON
C:\DOS\MODE CON RATE=32 DELAY=1
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P300 T6
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
C:\DOS\CTMOUSE.EXE
GOTO 3DFX
:3DFX
SET SST_GRXCLK=90
SET SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4
SET SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6
SET SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1
SET SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0
SET SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2
GOTO EXIT
:EXIT
@prompt $e[1;34m$p$e[1;36m$g$e[0m
@Path=C:\;C:\Dos;C:\apps;C:\apps\moslo;C:\apps\hexit
@CLS

MEM OUTPUT:

Memory Type Total = Used + Free
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Conventional 640K 16K 624K
Upper 91K 88K 2K
Reserved 293K 293K 0K
Extended (XMS) 64,512K 688K 63,824K
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Total memory 65,536K 1,086K 64,450K

Total under 1Mb 731K 104K 626K

Total Expanded (EMS) 33,152K (33,947,648 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS) 32,768K (33,554,432 bytes)

Total Extended (XMS) 64,512K (66,060,288 bytes)
Free Extended (XMS) 63,824K (65,355,776 bytes)

Largest executable program size 624K (638,912 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block 2K (1,776 bytes)
Available space in High Memory Area 5K (5,344 bytes)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

Thanks. It's more or less the same as mine.

Are you using only the windows' built-in driver for sound blaster, or installed a separate driver, perhaps for DOS?

Do you have any other files in the game folder (FIRE) besides FIRE.EXE and FIRE&ICE.CFG?

Just the config line and the programs to set up the environment variables, I'm not running windows. Yes I only have those two files in the DIR.

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