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Reply 580 of 587, by Nitroraptor53

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shock__ wrote on 2019-07-08, 15:07:
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i wonder how many of these Innovation SSI 2001s really exist in the wild ?

I'm currently aware of 2 (owned by people on this forum, being the one with the "sid 6581" written near the socket with a marker and the one with a 6581R4AR) and one being "semi-lost" (should be on loan to someone in this city ... but that info is 8+ years old, with no update since - being the card with all pads present on the slot connector).

My "guesstimate" would be that the card never was widespread and is likely one of the rarest PC soundcards that was ever professionally made in a very limited volume.

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

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Reply 581 of 587, by Jo22

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Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:09:

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ?
Anyway, the most important thing is that the schematic has survived - thanks to those two cards and all the people involved saving them! 😀
The off-the shelf parts aren't rare, either, gratefully. Especially in case of the SID chip by MOS.
What did Commodore once say ? They made stuff for the masses, not the classes ? 😉

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In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 582 of 587, by Nitroraptor53

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Jo22 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:52:
That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ? Anyway, the most important thing […]
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Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:09:

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ?
Anyway, the most important thing is that the schematic has survived - thanks to those two cards and all the people involved saving them! 😀
The off-the shelf parts aren't rare, either, gratefully. Especially in case of the SID chip by MOS.
What did Commodore once say ? They made stuff for the masses, not the classes ? 😉

I guess we need to build a time machine to find out!

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Reply 583 of 587, by Jo22

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Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 20:11:
Jo22 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:52:
That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ? Anyway, the most important thing […]
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Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:09:

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ?
Anyway, the most important thing is that the schematic has survived - thanks to those two cards and all the people involved saving them! 😀
The off-the shelf parts aren't rare, either, gratefully. Especially in case of the SID chip by MOS.
What did Commodore once say ? They made stuff for the masses, not the classes ? 😉

I guess we need to build a time machine to find out!

Sounds reasonable. And just in case if we can't, we simply have to "hack" time instead. 😉
https://youtu.be/bS5P_LAqiVg?t=592

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In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 584 of 587, by derSammler

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Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:09:

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

Estimates made by whom? These numbers seem to be completely plucked out of the air.

http://retro-net.de/blog.html

Reply 585 of 587, by Nitroraptor53

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Jo22 wrote on 2020-03-06, 20:22:
Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 20:11:
Jo22 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:52:
That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ? Anyway, the most important thing […]
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That makes me wonder how many days it required to make all of them. Maybe ~14 days ? A month ?
Anyway, the most important thing is that the schematic has survived - thanks to those two cards and all the people involved saving them! 😀
The off-the shelf parts aren't rare, either, gratefully. Especially in case of the SID chip by MOS.
What did Commodore once say ? They made stuff for the masses, not the classes ? 😉

I guess we need to build a time machine to find out!

Sounds reasonable. And just in case if we can't, we simply have to "hack" time instead. 😉
https://youtu.be/bS5P_LAqiVg?t=592

heh

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Reply 586 of 587, by Nitroraptor53

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derSammler wrote on 2020-03-06, 20:37:
Nitroraptor53 wrote on 2020-03-06, 19:09:

All estimates I've heard is up to ten thousand made, but only two thousand sold... 90% of them have been recycled//destroyed : (

Estimates made by whom? These numbers seem to be completely plucked out of the air.

Some guy I talked to who (claimed he) was an ex-Microprose Employee. Microprose distributed it under the name 'The Entertainer.'

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Reply 587 of 587, by carlostex

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Just a curiosity, here's Legend of Kyrandia running on Innovation SSI-2001 with Bristlehig's custom AIL driver:

Legend of Kyrandia -- Innovation SSI 2001

I think it sounds good. Of course the 3 voice limitation is quite noticeable, i don't know how much the driver could be improved to support SID advanced features such as changing waveforms on the fly. I also wonder if a modified driver to work with the DuoSID, would result in 6 independent voices. The second SID had to be put on a different address and the driver should take that into account so extra voices could be played. All in all i like how the SID chip sounds in Kyrandia.