*updated* working!

Apparently, I'm still running the 2MB wavetables. If anyone has a newer version than V3.13.06 of Yamaha SoftSynthesizer for Win9x please contact me!

The one I'm using is ASUS branded and has SXGMA.DRV V1.03.03, but I need V1.03.11 or higher to set the 4MB waveset, thanks.

I wonder if these could be converted to a soundfont

Davros wrote:

I wonder if these could be converted to a soundfont

Good question.. I was wondering the same thing. Of course now I'll be happy to just get the stock 4MB wavetables working.

One thing at a time I guess. Heck, last night I had no wavetables, now I have 2MB. 😀

I have yet to see ANYTHING that can convert the S-YXG50's wavetable files (sxgbin21.tbl/sxgwave2.tbl / sxgbin41.tbl/sxgwave4.tbl) to ANY other format.

rfnagel wrote:

I have yet to see ANYTHING that can convert the S-YXG50's wavetable files (sxgbin21.tbl/sxgwave2.tbl / sxgbin41.tbl/sxgwave4.tbl) to ANY other format.

That's a bummer! I'm keeping my eyes peeled, just in case.

I mentioned it somewhere else on here and I need to find it in my backups but I have S-YXG 100 plus I think it's called, which has VL technology. Can upload if anyone wants it.

RichB93 wrote:

I mentioned it somewhere else on here and I need to find it in my backups but I have S-YXG 100 plus I think it's called, which has VL technology. Can upload if anyone wants it.

I'm definitely interested if you can find it, much appreciated!

So from what I gather, Yamaha S-YXG100 PVL was only released as a Trial in Japan. I got the file and something errors out and I only have one option to click, which closes the setup. It's in Japanese of course, so I can't read it. Any ideas?

I finally found the S-YXG100 SoftSynth on a Russian HaXoR website. If my system doesn't blow up I'll post some links. Right now I'm trying to figure out if I can use the 4MB wavetables or not.

This thing is seriously good!

Recorded some MIDIs and listened to a lot.
This software, expanded to 4MB bank, along side Turtle Beach Pinnacle makes a sick combo.
I am amazed at how good the presets and this software is. Really something!

Why the heck did Yamaha stop developing this is a good question.

Glad to hear others are finding this useful. 😀 Can only assume they axed it to sell hardware.

Have you managed to get the 4MB waveset to work under windows 98SE?

Stojke wrote:

Have you managed to get the 4MB waveset to work under windows 98SE?

Yes, 98SE is what I'm using. Sorry, I just call all 98's -- 98. heh

In my quest to find music fonts, I came across this site and the 4mb
waveset. As I search elsewhere based upon this information here,
I came across this particular file. S-YXG2006LE which contains the
sxgbnw6l.tbl and sxgdat6l.tbl which are 12MB combined.

Now I am just wondering if we can simply rename it to the 4MB
waveset and get awesome music?

If the thread starter wants to experiment with the files, I do not mind
passing a copy of it to you.

Magnuz wrote:

In my quest to find music fonts, I came across this site and the 4mb waveset. As I search elsewhere based upon this information […]
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In my quest to find music fonts, I came across this site and the 4mb
waveset. As I search elsewhere based upon this information here,
I came across this particular file. S-YXG2006LE which contains the
sxgbnw6l.tbl and sxgdat6l.tbl which are 12MB combined.

Now I am just wondering if we can simply rename it to the 4MB
waveset and get awesome music?

Nope, they won't work. The "SXGBNW6L.TBL" and "SXGDAT6L.TBL" files that are included with S-YXG2006LE are in a totally different format than the "SXGBIN41.TBL" and "SXGWAVE4.TBL" files that are included with the S-YXG50.

BTW, not to mention, the S-YXG50 software synthesizer sounds worlds better than the S-YXG2006LE softsynth (even though the files for the S-YXG2006LE are of greater filesize).

simbin wrote:

Stojke wrote:

Have you managed to get the 4MB waveset to work under windows 98SE?

Yes, 98SE is what I'm using. Sorry, I just call all 98's -- 98. heh

How did you manage to get the wave set to work? I tried the ini editing approach but i didnt notice any sound improvement.

Magnuz wrote:

In my quest to find music fonts, I came across this site and the 4mb waveset. As I search elsewhere based upon this information […]
Show full quote

In my quest to find music fonts, I came across this site and the 4mb
waveset. As I search elsewhere based upon this information here,
I came across this particular file. S-YXG2006LE which contains the
sxgbnw6l.tbl and sxgdat6l.tbl which are 12MB combined.

Now I am just wondering if we can simply rename it to the 4MB
waveset and get awesome music?

If the thread starter wants to experiment with the files, I do not mind
passing a copy of it to you.

I have downloaded the exact same thing right now, and i wonder the same. If Simbin managed to get 4MB to work, than i bet 12MB set would work as well!

S-YXG2006LE 12MB set > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54462712/ … G%20_2MB_SET.7z

Thread with a lot of info:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=169094

[Edit]

Didn't read the post above mine 😀
Well there goes that. Still wondering how to get 4MB to work though 🤣

I made a 9 minute comparison between both sample sets using short clips of songs from well known games, where I believed some issues can be heard. Songs play at the loudness they would in the respective games. Some are loud.

The difference between both sample sets isn't as big as one would expect. Some samples are brighter, which is most apparent in "Simpleminded", where the rock snare stands out in 2 MB.

In the recording from YMF724 phasiness and instruments floating in the stereo field can be heard. I believe this is caused by samples for both channels being pulled and played at slightly different moments. "In the Hall of the Mountain King" has channels playing similar instruments panned to the left and right.

xgtestjn.mid
xgtestjn.rpp (reaper project)
xgtestjn.sfl (regions for Sound Forge)

YMF724 / 2MB (volume sliders at maximum, mp3)
S-YXG100 PVL / 2MB (Windows mixer at -6 dB, mp3)
S-YXG100 PVL / 4MB (Windows mixer at -6 dB, mp3)
S-YXG50 / 4MB (post mixer at -6 dB, mp3)

"Glenda's Theme" - Hardwood Games
"Tavern" - Strife
"Phaser" - DemonStar
"Phaser" - DemonStar - GS drums
"Simpleminded" - DemonStar
"In the Hall of the Mountain King" - Windows 98, Midisoft
"Cruise Control" - Transport Tycoon Deluxe
"Tzar Intro" - Tzar
"Mean (Ain't No Hip-Hop in Tha House Mix) - Age of Empires: The Rise of Rome
"Hyman's Wrath" - Age of Empires: The Rise of Rome

Bass tends to internally clip and buzz, which occurs more often with the VST version, which is otherwise the best. "Cruise Control". This can be remedied using XG lowpass effects on bass.

The bit depth of all soft-synths, except the VST, is 13-bit, as shown by the FLAC bitrate! YMF plays at about 15-16 bits, and the VST has practically unlimited bit depth and no clipping. "Hyman's Wrath" ends with a long fadeout where quantization noise can be heard. The VST does work under Windows 98 and requires about a 350 MHz CPU to use in realtime.

The MIDI file has XG resets between songs, but no other resets, so it will not play right on other devices. I placed the resets too early in some cases, so reverb cutting early is not the fault of these synths, except where it hisses before due to insufficient bit depth. The MP3s are streamable.

Magnuz wrote:

I came across this particular file. S-YXG2006LE which contains the sxgbnw6l.tbl and sxgdat6l.tbl which are 12MB combined. […]
Show full quote

I came across this particular file. S-YXG2006LE which contains the
sxgbnw6l.tbl and sxgdat6l.tbl which are 12MB combined.

Now I am just wondering if we can simply rename it to the 4MB
waveset and get awesome music?

The samples in the S-YXG2006LE are unbalanced. They have too much bass. (Yamaha really likes everything big.) One could replace certain samples that sound distorted in the MU50 set, like the tubular bells or indeed bass in an VST enviroment, but simply switching to this sample set will make everything muddy. I heard this is the set that SW1000XG users get.

Why didn't they put the new sounds in higher banks for compatibility?