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Reply 220 of 231, by Prez

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Riikcakirds wrote on 2020-12-26, 00:52:

Read through the thread and couldn't find an answer. What is the reason why everyone uses SETUPDS version 3.16 and not the later version 3.17.

Hi ! It seems i don't have it.
Do you have or can make a direct link to download this version please, so i can give a try ?

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Reply 221 of 231, by ruthan

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There were some unofficial patches for 3.16 or 3.14, to make it running on more chipsets..There was link to download page, where it was described somewhere in Vogons..
Hmm. links from 1# post are mostly dead, so try to use internet Wayback machine with them 2,3 years ago time period.

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Reply 222 of 231, by Riikcakirds

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ruthan wrote on 2020-12-26, 16:04:

There were some unofficial patches for 3.16 or 3.14, to make it running on more chipsets..There was link to download page, where it was described somewhere in Vogons..
Hmm. links from 1# post are mostly dead, so try to use internet Wayback machine with them 2,3 years ago time period.

Ver 3.17 did fix a problem I have with IRQ being set to 127.

This was the update log on what was new/fixed in setupds.

Version 3.17 (11/15/99)
- Fixed the problem that INTA# IRQ was sometime set to 127 when INTA# was shared
with other devices.
Version 3.16 (11/1/99)
- Warm reset will be issued when the AC97 devices go into the power down mode. (For
YMF744, 754 only.)
- Fixed the problems that happened with specific systems using PIIX4 chipset.

Reply 223 of 231, by Prez

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Riikcakirds wrote on 2020-12-27, 23:18:
Ver 3.17 did fix a problem I have with IRQ being set to 127. […]
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ruthan wrote on 2020-12-26, 16:04:

There were some unofficial patches for 3.16 or 3.14, to make it running on more chipsets..There was link to download page, where it was described somewhere in Vogons..
Hmm. links from 1# post are mostly dead, so try to use internet Wayback machine with them 2,3 years ago time period.

Ver 3.17 did fix a problem I have with IRQ being set to 127.

This was the update log on what was new/fixed in setupds.

Version 3.17 (11/15/99)
- Fixed the problem that INTA# IRQ was sometime set to 127 when INTA# was shared
with other devices.
Version 3.16 (11/1/99)
- Warm reset will be issued when the AC97 devices go into the power down mode. (For
YMF744, 754 only.)
- Fixed the problems that happened with specific systems using PIIX4 chipset.

Do you have a link to the 3.17 version please ?

Best regards
Philippe Dubois

Old computers and videogames freak
President of french association https://mo5.com
Get better, get old ! 😁

Reply 224 of 231, by Riikcakirds

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Prez wrote on 2020-12-28, 07:16:
Do you have a link to the 3.17 version please ? […]
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Riikcakirds wrote on 2020-12-27, 23:18:
Ver 3.17 did fix a problem I have with IRQ being set to 127. […]
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ruthan wrote on 2020-12-26, 16:04:

There were some unofficial patches for 3.16 or 3.14, to make it running on more chipsets..There was link to download page, where it was described somewhere in Vogons..
Hmm. links from 1# post are mostly dead, so try to use internet Wayback machine with them 2,3 years ago time period.

Ver 3.17 did fix a problem I have with IRQ being set to 127.

This was the update log on what was new/fixed in setupds.

Version 3.17 (11/15/99)
- Fixed the problem that INTA# IRQ was sometime set to 127 when INTA# was shared
with other devices.
Version 3.16 (11/1/99)
- Warm reset will be issued when the AC97 devices go into the power down mode. (For
YMF744, 754 only.)
- Fixed the problems that happened with specific systems using PIIX4 chipset.

Do you have a link to the 3.17 version please ?

Best regards
Philippe Dubois

I will attach it to this post. Can't remember exactly what website I got version 3.17 from now, it was some website with a Drapeau du Pays de Galles on it I downloaded in 2001. I'm trying to find in on archive.org because i'm certain there was also a version 3.18 released in January 2000. I will have a look on my old dos hard drive if I can find it. Can't seem to find any existence of it on the internet now.

(only attaching setupds.exe , all other files the same as 3.16)

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Reply 226 of 231, by vorob

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Crackling may be caused by too high maximum volume. Sometimes it's because driver allows to set the volume too high, when it was taken from another card. With VxD drivers you may fix it in registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\YAMAHA\Driver\YMF724\VolumeMax, or by YMF7x4Utilities.

Sorry, but I fail to do further steps. What do I need to change in the registry to have a lower max sound or what should I press in this Japanese program? Thanks.

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vorob wrote on 2021-04-14, 10:25:

Hi, i've got a laptop with 754. In Audio Mixer i've got a 3D Wide regulator. What is it and why it is turned off by default?

It's some king of DSP effect that should try to enhance stereo effect but I would call it rather sound crippling so it's better to have it disabled, at least for listnening music.

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vorob wrote on 2021-04-14, 10:25:

Hi, i've got a laptop with 754. In Audio Mixer i've got a 3D Wide regulator. What is it and why it is turned off by default?

What laptop is it and what driver are you using?

Working on getting a working VXD driver for Sony laptops with the 754 and anything helps.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-04-14, 16:21:
vorob wrote on 2021-04-14, 10:25:

Hi, i've got a laptop with 754. In Audio Mixer i've got a 3D Wide regulator. What is it and why it is turned off by default?

What laptop is it and what driver are you using?

Working on getting a working VXD driver for Sony laptops with the 754 and anything helps.

It’s all here: Toshiba 2805-s402 Ultimate retro gaming laptop

Didn’t it help?

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vorob wrote on 2021-04-14, 17:59:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-04-14, 16:21:
vorob wrote on 2021-04-14, 10:25:

Hi, i've got a laptop with 754. In Audio Mixer i've got a 3D Wide regulator. What is it and why it is turned off by default?

What laptop is it and what driver are you using?

Working on getting a working VXD driver for Sony laptops with the 754 and anything helps.

It’s all here: Toshiba 2805-s402 Ultimate retro gaming laptop

Didn’t it help?

Ah, ok. I still haven't had a chance to try the Toshiba driver.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

Reply 231 of 231, by mockingbird

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mockingbird wrote on 2020-01-16, 03:00:
Are you talking about King's Quest VI? […]
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Are you talking about King's Quest VI?

I just tested with an ESS1869 and it crashes with it (whole system crash).

It ran fine with the Yamaha and DSDMA TSR loaded. Totally stable and went relatively far into the game with narration without any glitches.

It also crashed with a Crystal ISA card. Seems like a very finicky game when it comes to sound cards.

I just want to update this...

So the YM7x4 tests I was conducting was on an Asus P5A board with the SB-Link header soldered in. S-IRQ became selectable in setupds.exe, but evidently, I can conclude that the SBLink implementation in the Aladdin V chipset is unusuable. Also, following the assumption that (at least) relatively newer PCI motherboards with ISA slots (from the late 90s) actually use a PCI to ISA bridge, the Aladdin V's bridge also seems defective in that regard, because I had issues with ISA sound cards.

I just tested KQ6 with a YMF724 using SBLink on an Asus P2B-S, and it worked perfectly fine, no TSRs, and no need to fiddle with any settings. And this system is even running at 1.4Ghz with 768MB RAM.

What did not work was General MIDI in the sound settings... But I've seen that discussed here so I'll leave that.

I want to test the game "Quarantine" to see if it works. Someone else mentioned in their blog that it doesn't with this configuration.

EDIT (08/14/2021):

Well, here we go again.

I thought this setup was stable, but it is not. Again, the card is setup with S-IRQ and PC-PCI in setupds.exe and setupds.exe is run via autoexec.bat with the /s switch at boot for initialization (not a TSR).

I want those who are claiming the high rate of compatibility to do this (with the SBLink cable installed):

1) Run King's Quest with Sound Blaster/ SBPro selected in the setup
2) Make sure the option is enabled to use your system's extended memory
2) When you are on the beach, keep clicking on your purse. It should say "Alexander is carrying: nothing".

It will eventually crash and hard lock the system.

So this is not AMD K6/2 & Aladdin V specific.

I dunno, maybe this game doesn't like the high clock speed (again, PIII-S @ 1.4Ghz on BX).

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