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X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-2-26 @ 20:43

Doppler and I have been working on a new General MIDI bank for DreamBlaster X2, the past months.
It is based on the samples from the GeneralUser bank (http://www.schristiancollins.com/generaluser.php) with kind permission from Chris Collins to use these.
Doppler has been tweaking and tuning, to achieve a similar inter-instrument balance as SC-55, but with our own characteristic sound. :cool:

We have reached beta testing stage, the current size of the bank is 27 mbytes and contains all GM instruments, so still plenty of room on X2 (has 64 mbyte of flash).
Many game soundtracks already sound great, some instruments still need tweaking.
If you have a DreamBlaster X2 and are interested in structured beta testing, feel free to pm me.
When the bank is ready (after beta testing), I will make it available as a free download for use with DreamBlaster X2.
You can easily upload the bank using usb, check out the user manual and software utils on this page : http://www.serdashop.com/DreamBlasterX2

I will post progress and sound samples in this thread.
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-2-26 @ 20:46

Here's a first recording with X2GU 0.02 : Doom ep.3, mission 8 :
https://soundcloud.com/dreamblaster/x2- ... a-doome3m8
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank

Postby Skyscraper » 2017-2-26 @ 21:05

Nice!

I need to allocate some of my retro computer money to actually buying a few DreamBlaster X2 synths for my gaming rigs, not just thinking about it! :)

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Re: X2GU : New GM bank

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-2-26 @ 21:35

Here's another recording with the 0.02 bank : Tie Fighter theme :
https://soundcloud.com/dreamblaster/x2- ... hter-title
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby gdjacobs » 2017-2-27 @ 04:43

This is awesome. Having a good stable of house tweaked soundfonts is key to demonstrating the power and versatility of the product.

Programmability is something 99% of daughterboards don't feature and most sound cards with programmable synth chipsets are either limited (in the case of Creative EMU8k cards which have poor DOS support) or don't have good tool support or significant soundfont resources (SAM9407).

I believe the X2 can fundamentally change this. I'm also hoping that translation tools from SF2 or DLS format will become available to unleash even more flexibility down the road.
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby keropi » 2017-2-27 @ 14:28

here are a couple of ROTT recordings with the new X2 bank - when it is finished the end result will be AWESOME

https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/r ... -amazed-x2
https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/r ... chamber-x2
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby PhilsComputerLab » 2017-2-27 @ 14:38

I'm not familiar with these tunes, but it sounds great :)
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby keropi » 2017-3-04 @ 21:52

here are some more tunes:

Descent menu: https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/descent-title-x2
Realms of Arkania 2 start area & tavern: https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/r ... atavern-x2

anyone else flashed the beta bank?
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby jheronimus » 2017-3-04 @ 22:01

Post some e1m1 please :blush:
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby keropi » 2017-4-03 @ 21:26

new version of the bank, still beta but improved several samples... great work!
here are a couple of recordings from some well known tracks:

Rise of the Triad - Run Like Smeg : https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/r ... g-x2-gud05
Duke Nukem 3D - Gotham: https://soundcloud.com/user-919839499/d ... m-x2-gud05

any requests? ask! :blush:
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby Whiskey » 2017-4-13 @ 16:45

This new GM font is sounding great. Looking forward to hearing what Monkey Island's intro music sounds like with it (, the default dream banks are a little unbalanced for it).
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-4-13 @ 16:59

X2 MONKEY ISLAND1 GM THEME : using GUD05 BETA BANK : https://soundcloud.com/dreamblaster/x2_ ... and1_gud05
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-4-22 @ 19:50

A public beta of the GUD GM bank is now available for download here : GUD 0.6 (= beta 6)
http://serdaco.com/downloads/X2/X2_Soun ... ck/GM/GUD/

You can upload this to your X2 over usb using the uploader tool.
(see user manual http://serdaco.com/downloads/X2/X2_Documentation/ ).

We used AuditPreset.DXP while creating the soundbank,
you can also download this from http://serdaco.com/downloads/X2/X2_Soun ... ck/GM/GUD/
if you like to have the same sonic setting on your X2.

Let me know what sounds good, and what should be changed.

Find below the readme text I included with the bank.

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22/04/2017  :  GUD GM Bank, version 0.6 beta

28 mbyte General MIDI soundbank binary for use in Serdaco soundcards.
(for example X2).

This bank was made available for download at
http://serdaco.com/downloads/X2/X2_SoundbankPack/GM/GUD/

Based on the General User soundbank samples with kind permission of Christian Collins.
Greetings to the vogons community  !
A giant thanks to Doppler for his huge and excellent help on composing and tuning this GUD bank !
Thanks to keropi for help in soundbank testing.

Soundbank binary (c) 2017 Serdaco BVBA, Belgium
Permitted to use the soundbank binary on soundcards by Serdaco BVBA
Samples used with permission, see http://www.schristiancollins.com/generaluser.php for the original work.

Instrument Map :

128 program changes - 1 drumset

  0: 0-Stereo Grand
  1: 1-Bright Grand
  2: 2-Electric Grand
  3: 3-Honky-Tonk
  4: 4-Tine Electric Piano
  5: 5-FM Electric Piano
  6: 6-Harpischord
  7: 7-Clavinet
  8: 8-Celeste
  9: 9-Glockenspiel
 10: 10-Music Box
 11: 11-Vibraphone
 12: 12-Marimba
 13: 13-Xylophone
 14: 14-Tubular Bells
 15: 15-Dulcimer
 16: 16-Tonewheel Organ
 17: 17-Percussive Organ
 18: 18-Rock Organ
 19: 19-Pipe Organ
 20: 20-Reed Organ
 21: 21-Accordian
 22: 22-Harmonica
 23: 23-Bandoneon
 24: 24-Nylon Guitar
 25: 25-Steel Guitar
 26: 26-Jazz Guitar
 27: 27-Clean Guitar
 28: 28-Muted Guitar
 29: 29-Overdrive Guitar
 30: 30-Distortion Guitar
 31: 31-Guitar Harmonics
 32: 32-Acoustic Bass
 33: 33-Finger Bass
 34: 34-Pick Bass
 35: 35-Fretless Bass
 36: 36-Slap Bass 1
 37: 37-Slap Bass 2
 38: 38-Synth Bass 1
 39: 39-Synth Bass 2
 40: 40-Violin
 41: 41-Viola
 42: 42-Cello
 43: 43-Double Bass
 44: 44-Stereo Strings Trem
 45: 45-Pizzicato Strings
 46: 46-Orchestral Harp
 47: 47-Timpani
 48: 48-Stereo Strings Fast
 49: 49-Stereo Strings Slow
 50: 50-Synth Strings 1
 51: 51-Synth Strings 2
 52: 52-Concert Choir
 53: 53-Voice OOhs
 54: 54-Synth Voice
 55: 55-Orchestral Hit
 56: 56-Trumpet
 57: 57-Trombone
 58: 58-Tuba
 59: 59-Muted Trumpet
 60: 60-French Horns
 61: 61-Brass Section
 62: 62-Synth Brass 1
 63: 63-Synth Brass 2
 64: 64-Soprano Sax
 65: 65-Alto Sax
 66: 66-Tenor Sax
 67: 67-Baritone Sax
 68: 68-Oboe
 69: 69-English Horn
 70: 70-Bassoon
 71: 71-Clarinet
 72: 72-Piccolo
 73: 73-Flute
 74: 74-Recorder
 75: 75-Pan Flute
 76: 76-Bottle Blow
 77: 77-Shakuhachi
 78: 78-Irish Thin Whistle
 79: 79-Ocarina
 80: 80-Square Lead
 81: 81-Saw Lead
 82: 82-Synth Calliope
 83: 83-Chiffer Lead
 84: 84-Charang
 85: 85-Solo Vox
 86: 86-5th Saw Wave
 87: 87-Bass & Lead
 88: 88-Fantasia
 89: 89-Warm Pad
 90: 90-Polysynth
 91: 91-Space Voice
 92: 92-Bowed Glass
 93: 93-Metal Pad
 94: 94-Halo Pad
 95: 95-Sweep Pad
 96: 96-Ice Rain
 97: 97-Soundtrack
 98: 98-Crystal
 99: 99-Atmosphere
100: 100-Brightness
101: 101-Goblin
102: 102-Echo Drops
103: 103-Star Theme
104: 104-Sitar
105: 105-Banjo
106: 106-Shamisen
107: 107-Koto
108: 108-Kalimba
109: 109-Bagpipes
110: 110-Fiddle
111: 111-Shenai
112: 112-Tinker Bell
113: 113-Carillon
114: 114-Steel Drums
115: 115-Woodblock
116: 116-Taiko Drum
117: 117-Melodic Tom
118: 118-Synth Drum
119: 119-Reverse Cymbal
120: 120-Fret Noise
121: 121-Breath Noise
122: 122-Seashore
123: 123-Birds
124: 124-Telephone
125: 125-Helicopter
126: 126-Applause
127: 127-Gun Shot


1 drumset
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Note      Pc:  0                   
 27 D127-Filter Snap               
 28 D128-Slap                     
 29 D129-Scratch Push             
 30 D130-Scratch Pull             
 31 D131-Sticks                   
 32 D132-Square Click             
 33 D133-TR808 Click               
 34 D134-TR808 Click Carillon     
 35 D135-Standard Kick2           
 36 D136-Standard Kick3           
 37 D137-Jazz Rim Shot             
 38 D138-Jazz Standard Snare       
 39 D139-Hand Clap                 
 40 D140-Standard Snare 3         
 41 D141-Standard Tom 5 Lower     
 42 D142-Hi-Hat Closed Soft       
 43 D143-Standard Tom 5           
 44 D144-Hi-Hat Pedal             
 45 D145-Standard Tom 4           
 46 D146-Hi-Hat Open               
 47 D147-Standard Tom 3           
 48 D148-Standard Tom 2           
 49 D149-Crash Lower               
 50 D150-Standard Tom 1           
 51 D151-Ride Cymbal               
 52 D152-Chinese Cymbal           
 53 D153-Ride Bell                 
 54 D154-Tambourine               
 55 D155-Splash Cymbal             
 56 D156-Cowbell                   
 57 D157-Crash                     
 58 D158-Vibra Slap               
 59 D159-Ride Cymbal               
 60 D160-Bongo Rim                 
 61 D161-Bongo Tone               
 62 D162-Conga High Muted         
 63 D163-Conga High Open           
 64 D164-Tumba Low                 
 65 D165-Timbale Rim               
 66 D166-Timbale Low               
 67 D167-agogo                     
 68 D168-agogo                     
 69 D169-Cabasa                   
 70 D170-Maracas                   
 71 D171-Whistle Short             
 72 D172-Whistle Long             
 73 D173-Guiro Short               
 74 D174-Guiro Long               
 75 D175-Claves                   
 76 D176-Woodblock high           
 77 D177-Woodblock low             
 78 D178-Cuica Open               
 79 D179-Cuica Open               
 80 D180-Traingle Perc short       
 81 D181-Traingle Perc             
 82 D182-Shaker                   
 83 D183-Jingle Bell               
 84 D184-Chimes                   
 85 D185-Castanetes               
 86 D186-Surdo Muted               
 87 D187-Surdo Open               
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby keropi » 2017-4-22 @ 20:05

Awesome, it would be nice to hear feedback from another set of ears :D LOL
This is still BETA, so even the smallest report can affect and change this for the better :blush:
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-4-22 @ 20:17

Here's a recording of DOOM 1 E1 M1 using the GUD 0.6 bank on X2
X2_GUD06_DOOM1_E1M1.mp3
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby derSammler » 2017-4-23 @ 09:07

Is there are changelog from 0.5 to 0.6? Did you address the issues with the System Shock soundtrack?
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby dreamblaster » 2017-4-23 @ 10:21

Changes from 0.5 to 0.6 :
- relative balance of all instruments changed according to test by ear.
- fixed various tuning errors in instruments.

System shock should sound better now, still not perfect.
X2_GUD06_SYSTEMSHOCK_INTRO.mp3
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby derSammler » 2017-4-23 @ 10:44

System shock should sound better now, still not perfect.

I guess "better" is a matter of definition in this case. ;)

Still nice work, many games sound really nice with it.

btw, MidiPlayer comes with a 32 mb soundfont called "Reality_GMGS_falcomod" in SF2 format. Is it possible to convert that one to be used on the X2?
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Re: X2GU : New GM bank for DreamBlaster X2

Postby clueless1 » 2017-4-23 @ 13:18

Somehow I completely missed this thread until now. :exclamation:

I think it would be helpful when posting tunes to also post the same tune played with the default X2 sound bank to help hear the difference in the new one.

It will be hard to please everyone because sound can be so subjective, and it seems a tweak to make one game sound better could have a negative effect on a different game.

That said, in my personal opinion, this is the standard by which E1M1 should be compared:
https://soundcloud.com/philscomputerlab ... santa-cruz
For whatever reason this card plays this song better (IMO) than any other GM device.

It would be useful to pick a handful of the most well-known GM songs in a variety of instruments styles, along with the gold standard for that song (be it an SC-55, Yamaha, etc), and use those for baselines. Maybe set up a soundcloud page to make it easy for the listener to compare the ideal to the X2 default and current X2 beta and provide feedback.

Some song suggestions:
[rock-based]
Doom E1M1
Duke Grabbag
[orchestral]
Star Wars theme variations (X-Wing/Tie Fighter)
Wing Commander 3
Betrayal at Krondor
[synthy]
Descent title music
System Shock theme

These songs are mostly well-known, so the listener will be more invested in having an opinion.

Betrayal at Krondor is an interesting option because it *includes* a CD-Audio version which is their gold standard GM recording:
https://youtu.be/LbmXGZUpfsQ?t=793
Making it easy to compare to your own GM playback device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcdNsnZymUk (Adlib, MT-32 and Sound Canvas switching)
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